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Hi guys, I've been working on a self-hostable web analytics platform since the start of this year after being frustrated with Google Analytics and Plausible.

I've packed a bunch of cool web analytics features into Rybbit, but I've tried very hard to keep the interface simple to use,

https://github.com/rybbit-io/rybbit

Check it out!

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[–] custard_swollower@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AGPL means they are licensing it to you, they are not bound by the license because they are the copyright owners.

[–] spacelord@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's misleading. While copyright owners aren't bound by their own license, AGPL Section 13 requires that when they run AGPL software as a network service, they must make the complete source available to users.

The AGPL was specifically designed to close the "SaaS loophole." Being the copyright owner doesn't exempt you from AGPL's network service requirements if you're distributing under that license.

[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is flat out wrong. If you're the copyright owner, you're not licensing the code to yourself. The AGPL is the license under which they're making the open source version available to YOU. The version they run themselves is proprietary.

[–] spacelord@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's inacurrate. Licensing representation matters. If the cloud service is genuinely presented as AGPL-licensed, Section 13 obligations apply regardless of copyright ownership. However, copyright owners remain free to maintain truly separate proprietary versions under dual licensing.

[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Licensing representation matters

It doesn't, because they're the copyright owners. Think of their software as dual licensed: They run it themselves under a proprietary license, under which they reserve all rights. That has nothing to do with the AGPL version that they license to you. The AGPL doesn't take away the rights they have as copyright owners, nor does it preclude dual licensing.

(Are you a bot? Your reply is written like ChatGPT, and it has that self-defeating logic that ChatGPT has sometimes.... eg. you wrote that you disagree with me, but then parroted the exact thing that I said.)