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The FBI spied on a Signal group chat of immigration activists, records reveal
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2025
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We are starting to learn that the world with computers and the Internet is like the world without them, except with them.
There were those medieval German secret courts with their secret judgements and assassins fulfilling those. And there were various masonic and such groups. And even secret societies of revolutionaries.
All they were was crime groups, interest clubs and elites pastime, in the end.
But it all started really working with mass politics. Because secrecy of a group requiring communication and adding new members can't be preserved, and once it's broken, it's just a few people challenging the power. While a crowd with torches (because nobody gives days off for demonstrations at daytime ; yes, torches were not a Nazi thing, they were common for all "worker" parties) doesn't need secrecy - its idea's survival is guaranteed not by secrecy, but by inability to stop its spread.