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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 20 hours ago (21 children)

I'm always a bit surprised about how western Christians place so much more importance on Christmas than Easter.
Only through resurrection on Easter does Jesus become so important (thus the Christ), without it he would have just been another prophet (though part of the trinity).

[–] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's important to realize that Christmas has lost a lot of it's religious connotation in the West. Don't get me wrong, everybody knows it's a Christian holiday meant to celebrate the birth of the Christ. However, there is no assumption that because you celebrate Christmas then you must be a Christian. That isn't the case for Easter. People who celebrate Easter in the West are typically Christian. This makes Christmas the more publicly celebrated holiday, which feeds back into it's own popularity.

I am not super familiar with eastern Christianity, so I could be wrong. It may be that Christmas has the same religious connotations in the East as the West. If that's the case, then disregard my previous point.

Here are some other perspectives:

Jesus was the Christ before he was resurrected. The resurrection is all good fun, but once Jesus was sent to earth, the whole train was set in motion and salvation became inevitable. The incarnation of a God bringing salvation is something to celebrate.

Historically speaking, I'm pretty sure Christmas is bigger just because it co-opted all the Saturnalia festivities as a concession to the pegans so that more of them would join Christianity. Saturnalia was all about partying and beating up Jews, so it was obviously immensely popular and helped Christianity grow much quicker than if they required the pegans to give up their festival. With all the Greek and Roman influence on the West, it shouldn't be too surprising that they treat Christmas in the same way - but hopefully with less ethnically charged violence.

Finally, it's easier to tell cute stories about a birth than an execution and subsequent resurrection. "Look at the cute little baby with the animals" vs "look at the immortal zombie man with holes in his body". This matters a lot in a hyper consumerist society.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Not just Saturnalia, that was just the first. More was incorporated from various traditions as they sought to convert them. But yeah, that was sort of the foundation the rest was laid upon.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Interesting points for sure. Though I did not mean celebrate as done commercially with Christmas but the religious importance of it.

Orthodox Christianity is very much Roman, very much eastern Roman aka. Byzantine (arguably more so than Roman Catholics and much more than whatever Protestants are doing LOL) and Pascha (Easter) is the most important religious holiday there is.

You prepare for it by fasting for 40 days (and I mean seriously, like not just "I won't eat candy or meat", but basically a vegan diet with some days even having restrictions on certain vegetable oils etc.) and then break the fasting (with the eggs, baked goods and whatever is traditional for your region that you brought to be blessed the day before) after partaking in night liturgy and most importantly a procession around your church.

I grew up with the ex-soviet light variant of this (as in real fasting, but not the full on-night liturgy and we skipped a lot of the weekday liturgies and preparations during the Great Fast), but we did have Butter Week before the Great Fasting :)

(Also I'm skipping a lot of details in this comment)

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