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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I don't know why people write these emotionally charged comments that are dripping with sarcasm. Your entire comment is a series of strawman misrepresentations that you've erected to unceremoniously "dunk" on the opposition instead of actually arguing with any nuance. You give one piece of evidence in your favor and conclude that you've had the final say on the matter. This sort of discourse boils down to "You're an idiot!" ... "No, YOU are!!"

My point is that Orwell is more anti-Stallin than pro-leftist. People on the left may be tempted to interpret Orwell as arguing against right-wing fascism. But he is actually depicting a fascistic socialism. This explains why our governments are so quick to hail 1984 as some literary achievement. In reality, the novel slows to a crawl in the middle and is not inventive at all; especially when compared to the great works of science fiction such as The Time Machine, The Dispossessed, Roadside Picnic, Necromancer, etc. (Manual surveillance of millions of people through their TVs? Seriously? 1984 is not fit to be compared with any of Ursula Le Guin's works. As a fan of the genre, I question whether you actually read science fiction at all.)

By the tone of your comment I can see that you're pretty entrenched in your position and don't care about Orwell's character or motivations. Everyone else can make up their own minds:

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I want to take this apart piece by piece because i think every singke thing you say here is wrong, but reading this i get the impression you haven't read a single fucking one of the things you're talking about, including my comment.

Still skipping the asimov thing too, while you retreat into 'rationality bro' and defer to someone else.

You're not correct, but you're not even wrong; you're just parroting.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've read one of their links, and although it shows Orwell to be an asshole, racist, bigot, and anti-Stalin; it still doesn't make sense as a ground for other statements, especially him being imperialist.

I would think that the whole thing comes from conflating communism and whatever the Soviets were doing, and if anyone thinks that USSR was not the heaven on earth, they are damned

Well yeah, communism is when stalin.