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[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Denmark forcibly sterilizing Greenland Inuit women, the general treatment of the Romani people, Brexiters crying about immigrants, oh hey look things are getting worse for black people, Zwarte Piet, golliwog dolls, the racism adjacent to Islamophobia...

It generally looks different in the US because a) the population is way less homogenous so different ethnic groups can both form distinct cultures and are more likely to interact with other groups and b) the core issues are baked into every facet of our history and fixing all of the lingering effects means actually facing and discussing all of it. This is complicated by a sizeable portion that are perfectly happy with a segregated society. We fought a war with ourselves about it and didn't actually fix anything in that process. (I suspect that a great many Europeans are also happy with a segregated society, and as long as that segregation is along country or even village borders they can pretend it's not the same kind of bigotry)

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What about "Zwarte Piet"? That has nothing to do with racism.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The use of exaggerated black features to depict a servant that originated as a slave demon has nothing to do with racism?

This is the kind of stuff this post is about. It's not that "Americans talk about race too much" it's that y'all don't talk about the problematic stuff enough so you don't even recognize it.

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 8 hours ago

That would be Speciesism just to be pedantic. But no, it really doesn't and shows a poor understanding of the historical background of "zwarte Piet".

[–] verdi@feddit.org 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is absolutely racism in Europe, as a continent. However, most US commenters here are conflating being less politically correct than the US with the de facto batshit insane institutionalized racism that still prevails stateside. Call me when EU prisons are used as slave camps (populated overwhelmingly by black people) or we have a para-military neo-nazi force arresting people because of the colour of their skin. Meanwhile black people get access to healthcare in the EU and have higher life expectancy at birth within the EU than the progressive polite US of A...

Also, since you mention Scandinavia you forgot the Sámi and the use of eugenics in Sweden well into the 60s...