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Papers with U.S. State Department markings, found Friday morning in the business center of an Alaskan hotel, revealed previously undisclosed and potentially sensitive details about the Aug. 15 meetings between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir V. Putin in Anchorage.

Eight pages, that appear to have been produced by U.S. staff and left behind accidentally, shared precise locations and meeting times of the summit and phone numbers of U.S. government employees

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (18 children)

What do you use, quill and ink?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (17 children)

How often are you printing things? I don't even own a printer. I spend maybe $0.50 a year printing things at the library.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (16 children)

Often enough that having a laser printer at home is vastly more convenient than having to make a special trip to the tree pulp store every time I want a physical copy of a document.

Tax forms, manuals & documentation, tickets & passes, shipping labels, markable documents, patterns ...

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Tax forms

Those are digital

manuals & documentation

Also digital

tickets & passes

Also digital

shipping labels, markable documents, patterns

These are the couple times a year thing that I print. Well, not patterns. Even "markable documents" I usually do digitally with a stylus. How often are you needing to do these things at a hotel?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Physical backups are not digital. Also, worksheets are easier done with pencil.

Paper manuals are easier to flip through, dog-ear, and move around.

Paper copies of tickets don't need batteries or wireless service.

The last few times I recall that I needed to print things at a hotel, they involved marriage license forms, credit reports and checklists. Most other times I'm visiting a facility that has a printer should I need anything printed.

Oh, I've also had to print out plenty of hardcopy documents for mailing to various government services over the years, including the IRS and SSA.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Physical backups are not digital

Not needed, you can backup digitally

Paper manuals are easier to flip through, dog-ear, and move around

Digital is much easier to search with ctrl+f and can be fed to a RAG so you can ask your favorite LLM questions about it

Paper copies of tickets don't need batteries or wireless service

Traveling with a power bank is normal and you can save tickets to your offline wallet on your phone

The last few times I recall that I needed to print things at a hotel, they involved marriage license forms, credit reports

There is zero chance I'm trusting the security of hotel equipment with those sorts of paperwork.

Oh, I've also had to print out plenty of hardcopy documents for mailing to various government services over the years, including the IRS and SSA.

Right, the once every other year sort of thing and why most people don't need a printer. I've only needed physical print outs for the IRS once. I gather all those forms digitally, encrypt them, and send them to my tax guy.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Digital backups work until your provider decides you don't matter as a customer. Paper backups are also easier to flip through. Glad you agree with me about worksheets, though.

I neither need nor want to slopify information. I don't need to search a dozen-page document that I can flip through and move to various benches and worksites.

A sheet of paper takes up much, much less space than a powerbank.

All of your credit information has been leaked by Equifax ten times over already. A hotel printer ain't shit.

Does your "tax guy" handle every single interaction between you and every government agency?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Digital backups work until your provider decides you don't matter as a customer

Don't rely on a provider. And I have no idea what you even mean by worksheets, so I have zero opinion.

I neither need nor want to slopify information. I don't need to search a dozen-page document that I can flip through and move to various benches and worksites.

This strongly depends on what you're doing. I wish the papers I have to reference were only 12 pages.

A sheet of paper takes up much, much less space than a powerbank.

I'm carrying the power bank when traveling regardless

Does your "tax guy" handle every single interaction between you and every government agency?

How much do I need to interact with the government? Taxes probably are by far the most I interact with the government. Wither it is the IRS, Secretary of State, or DNR. All of which do digital or have the physical forms at their office, no printer required.

Look, it's obvious some people need a printer. Wither they actually need or just want the convenience like you do. I would bet most people don't and I think fewer and fewer people do have them these days. That's all kind of irrelevant to the use of a hotel business center anyway. It's even more irrelevant when talking about the president who has an entire team of communication people that do bring the equipment they need with them. It's vanishingly rare to need that business center, even if you do trust it, and it's completely inexcusable for a government official. It's also weird how hung up on a joke you've become.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ask an LLM what a worksheet is, then. Glad you tacitly agree about the ease of referencing a paper copy, though.

I frequently reference manuals that range from one page to the order of five thousand pages. The shorter ones are clearly more easy to use without a device in the way.

How much are you on your phone that you need a power bank to get through a normal day? I think there's a separate underlying issue here. Also, I just happened to buy some tickets that had no digital wallet option, so I printed them out for ease. No need to fumble around with a phone and dig for a PDF when I can just whip a piece of paper out of my pocket in a fraction of a second.

Not even all correspondence with the IRS is e-filing. The SSA I explicitly mentioned also does lots of physical paperwork. And I forgot, the other day I got a form that I need to print and mail for some lab work my wife needs to send out. Pretty difficult to digitize samples.

It's weird how hung up you've become on the fact that printing is common and useful.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ask an LLM what a worksheet is

No thanks, I don't care what it is.

you tacitly agree about the ease of referencing a paper copy

It strongly depends on use case

How much are you on your phone that you need a power bank to get through a normal day

Lol, thanks for making my point for me? A normal day you don't need to worry about battery life. I specified traveling.

No need to fumble around with a phone and dig for a PDF when I can just whip a piece of paper out of my pocket

The thing is, you flip that statement around and it still makes sense. No need to fumble around with a piece of paper that I have to protect from the elements and getting destroyed or lost when I can just open the pdf on my phone.

Not even all correspondence with the IRS is e-filing

I didn't say it was... But, my tax guy is there for that.

The SSA I explicitly mentioned also does lots of physical paperwork

Not a ton of people constantly dealing with the SSA.

And I forgot, the other day I got a form that I need to print and mail for some lab work my wife needs to send out. Pretty difficult to digitize samples

Wtf, all medical paperwork is digital these days. They usually create a portal for you that includes your results, records, and billing.

You're still completely ignoring the intent of the joke and the context of the conversation in an extreme attempt to justify to yourself your own use of a printer. If you want to use a printer and the hotel printer, have at it.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

tl;dr

You've lost your grip on reality, kid.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You reject our reality and substitute your own.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sure thing bud. Still waiting to hear what this has to do with the joke and the president's staff.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's a different thread, champ.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Your lack of creativity is astounding. But, I accept this apology too.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Thanks for the irony, I guess.

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