this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2025
618 points (85.5% liked)

Memes

52163 readers
847 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 176 points 2 days ago (172 children)

Fun fact: It's actually possible for two countries to both be authoritarian!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago (79 children)

"Authoritarian" is largely a meaningless term. All it really means is one group using force against another group, but it doesn't say anything about which group is which. In the US Empire, the capitalists use the state to crush the workers, and export genocide and chaos to the global south. In the PRC, the working class uses the state to keep the capitalists in check as they progress and develop along socialist lines. This stark difference in which class is in power is shown with immense popular support in the PRC:

[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you consider a state censoring all it's citizens from discussing certain words and topics to not be authoritarian?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I stated that all states are "authoritarian," all are methods by which one class exerts authority over another. The only way out of "authoritarianism" is to fully collectivize production, eliminating class distinctions. Until then, it's better for capitalists to be under the thumb of the workers, rather than the inverse. Like I said, it's a largely meaningless term.

load more comments (77 replies)
load more comments (169 replies)