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Federal agent during violent DC arrest: “Liberals already ruined” this country
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Maybe I'm in the minority (heh) but I think that ICE shouldn still be a thing but should not be a federal agency. Maybe a sub division of a state trooper or county sheriff department.
Immigration and customs are federal issues, not state issues, no matter how you slice it.
The problem isn't that there exists an organization to enforce, but the entirety of its approach ("find people to kick out / take to concentration camps"). Within the framework we have today, something like a non-citizen being convicted of a crime (handled by local/state) being handed off to ice to deport to the appropriate country of their residence? Sure.
But also borders are pretty stupid if a lot of the other stupid stuff around it goes away too.
Thanks for the thoughts and information in your post. Those are some valid points.
They're already under the Department of Homeland Security I'd imagine. I guess I don't really have a better answer. I feel like the department needs to exist but not to this extent. Kind of like how the FBI doesn't do patrol work, then maybe ICE should handle it only after it's been an identified issue or an established case.
Thanks again for making it a conversation. I don't know everything and I'm not afraid to say it.
What does ice do that other, less militarized, agencies can't already do?
Nothing.
Before DHS is was handled by the treasury, labor, and justice Dept's (moved around in various ways over the past ~130ish years), the most significant change being immigration under the DOJ in 1940 (for... Somewhat obvious security reasons for the time).
DHS just absorbed all the different groups under one shitty lead. The excuse at the time being terrorism.
There is zero reason customs shouldn't be under the treasury, immigration under labor, and enforcement (as in managing the deportation of those convicted of violent acts, or pursuing smugglers identified by customs, so on) under justice.
The reformation under DHS was specifically designed to militarize.
Aggression aside I feel like ICE should be more on the legal side of things than the force side of things