Flippanarchy
Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation.
Post humorous takes on capitalism and the states which prop it up. Memes, shitposting, screenshots of humorous good takes, discussions making fun of some reactionary online, it all works.
This community is anarchist-flavored. Reactionary takes won't be tolerated.
Don't take yourselves too seriously. Serious posts go to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Absolutely no right-wing jokes. This includes "Anarcho"-Capitalist concepts.
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Absolutely no redfash jokes. This includes anything that props up the capitalist ruling classes pretending to be communists.
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No bigotry whatsoever. See instance rules.
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This is an anarchist comm. You don't have to be an anarchist to post, but you should at least understand what anarchism actually is. We're not here to educate you.
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Yeah but why do we care that much?
They're a problem between us and a better world. Between us and the survival of the species.
Killing them is expedient. Helps dismantle their power faster.
Did you read the article? Here is a couple of sections I think put it correctly:
And lastly:
Or to put it in my words: Letting them live is the human thing to do, even if they pose a threat. Their power does not come from who they are but from the structures that are build around them. We have to dismantle those structures, killing people doesn't help with that. If we have reached a point where we can guillotine them we will have already won.
If you want to execute them in self-defence (as maintaining capitalism is inflecting violence on the human race, therefor killing anyone doing it is self-defence). Go for it, but make it clear that's why you are doing it, and that there is no better way. Like destroying all the methods they use and make them powerless which will also make them stop without losing your humanity (hyperbole).
That's a lot of words for saying you're to uncomfortable to do what it takes to secure a win.
Death sentences are not about punishing an individual. It's about scaring ppl who consider doing the same shitless, so they don't revert your progress later.
Oh hey, I have a quote for that: https://youtu.be/xnouj9Yz-Gs?t=35
Here is a section of AFAQ as well: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionJ.html#secj73
And we don't need to scare people. Fear shouldn't be among our weapons. It creates conformity, timidness, a desire to cower and hide until it goes away. Values that are antithetical to anarchism. Or in the worse case, fighting, attacking those creating fear ruthlessly and without mercy. Nothing is more scary than someone backed into a corner. How many innocent people would be killed by rulers who want to go out in a blase of glory because they know they'll die anyway? Their power comes from the people that uphold the social structures. To win we need to destroy the ideas that justify their power. If we can do that, we don't need to kill them, and if we can't, killing them will accomplish nothing, the people will just fall behind another leader, one who will now try and enact their revenge.
Revenge is a cycle, "Eye for an eye and the world would go blind". The only thing killing will accomplish is more killing. Our success is dependent on our ideas winning, and nothing destroys peoples willingness to listen than ruthless killing.
I get the feeling, you're not part of the "us".
What do you mean by this?
You sound like someone trying to make sure they don't get beheaded in a potentially upcoming revolution.
Of course I am. Aren't you? Being considered not anarchist/revolutionary enough and killed to maintain the purity of the anarchist/revolutionary vision². This is exactly what happens once you start considering some people as killable. The definition expands and expands and you end up with the same authoritarian structures that we try to escape from.
This kind of othering is exactly why we cannot use violence¹ as a means to advance our cause. It gives an easy solution to disagreements, fuels tribalism and sows discord.
¹: on people, property destruction isn't violence. Killing of cops, CEOs, and politicians is always self-defence as they maintain the status quo that is killing us. Although they should always be given the option to quit.
²: kinda like what the bolsheviki did by calling everyone counter-revolutionary. This kind of thinking leads to Kronstadt.
No, I'm not. I'm the guy they call when nobody wants to operate the guillotine.
So all of your ideas are so simplistic that you think no-one will disagree with you? or do you think you can kill them before they can kill you? If you are an anarchist, decide to ally yourself with communists, and start talking about guillotining, I can guarantee you it's only a matter of time before you're called counter-revolutionary and get killed yourself. Or you could decide not to ally with them, in which case they get added to the list of people you'll need to kill. Making it rather long. And you can be sure that sooner or later a charismatic autocrat will take your place and use it to consolidate power. Thinking that killing our enemies is a path to victory opens up so many potential vectors through which power could be consolidated. It's just better to do without them.