I've blocked Cowbee because they kept trying to justify China rubber staping the genocide in Gaza by voting for the Trump UNSC proposal after 2 years of genocide. Some people will justify anything China does.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

China didn't vote for the proposal, though. They abstained. I agree voting against would have been good, but it's strange to claim they voted for it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This user is banned from Hexbear for claiming it's run by "transzionists." They uphold Bad Empanada so much because more often than not, it's more important to be a contrarion for them than actually make a correct point.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This user is banned from Hexbear for claiming it’s run by “transzionists.” They uphold Bad Empanada

Thanks, that's enough of a reason for me to not want to reply to them any further.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep, it's frustrating because the only reason I gently reached out to them while they flipped 180 on China, calling it imperialist and Blue MAGA, was because I thought they were generally more reasonable. A radlib with good political instincts, but someone that could use real organizing work and study. Unfortunately, it seems they became Bad Empanada poisoned, causing them to see enemies out of every ally by finding imperfections and magnifying them.

Doubly frustrating that they blocked me, rather than respond in earnest. Even before they blocked me, they would just respond with unrelated Bad Empanada tweets. I imagine that's how the falling out with Grad and Hexbear happened (Grad banned them as well for liberalism).

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Abstaining is nothing more than a cowardly way of voting in favor. They have veto rights and they know it will pass if they don't veto it.

Silence is consent in the most literal terms here.

The abstain vote was very useful to filter out those who actually care about human rights from those who only speak about it to further their own cause. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeCHFGZM-E

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is the same logic used by liberals to claim voting for PSL is a vote for Trump, and again, you're upholding Bad Empanada, a known contrarion and transphobe, instead of addressing the actual arguments at hand.

Here's an example of Bad Empanada just shit-stirring:

You also claimed Hexbear are "transzionists," uphold Bad Empanada, and take constant reactionary stances. You blocked me because I correctly called you out, and here is what I said:

The PRC is not helping the US and Israel disarm the resistance. China has affirmed that Palestinians must control Palestine in their own state, and served as a vital mediator for the 2024 Beijing Declaration, where Fatah and Hamas were brought closer together and the resistance as a whole in Palestine came together to collaborate more closely, alongside China. In the 2024 Beijing Declaration, which China was a core mediator for, it was declared that the resistance must not be disarmed.

China has consistently only ever veto'd at the security council if it is willing to intervene millitarily in order to protect the veto'd outcome. The PRC has veto'd sanctions on the DPRK, and has enforced that veto by increasing trade with the DPRK. The US Empire has never been stopped by a veto, such as when it was determined to stop shipping arms to Haiti, which the US subverted. China vetoing the UNSC declaration on Palestine would mean mobilizing its army to directly prevent the US's plans for the region.

If we look at how resistance orgs are responding, they aren't blaming China. Instead, they have similar analysis to China, that is that the plan itself is unworkable and that they cannot implement it in the first place. China also adhered its best to both the PLO, who endorsed TRUST, and Hamas, the PFLP, etc that oppose TRUST.

Personally, I would rather China take a more millitant anti-imperialist stance than their current passive stance. There's good reason to believe this will be the case in the future, as younger generations in China are more millitant and more overwhelmingly pro-Palestine. However, I don't confuse imperfect allies for enemies, which is the western-leftist mistake you've fallen for. You did the same with Hexbear, calling them "transzionist" and claiming they ban critique of contrapoints because she's trans. The reality is that Hexbear is anti-zionist and pro-trans, and regularly clowns on contrapoints for her awful liberalism.

China is contributing to a multi-polar world. China's position in the global stage facilitates south-south trade, which bypasses unequal exchange, where the global north maintains monopolies on high tech industries so as to consistently charge monopoly prices in exchange with the global south. China charges non-monopoly prices, and this is why exchange with China, alongside the rise of the Belt and Road Initiative, has resulted in dramatic development in African and Latin American countries. This is ultimately the single greatest contributor to the downfall of imperialism globally, and is why right now there is such a large cold war with China.

Your confusion of imperfect allies with enemies is why the western left has continued to fail to meaningfully challenge the status quo. Jones Manoel was correct in Western Marxism Loves Purity and Martyrdom, But Not Real Revolution. Western leftists do the work of the US Empire by making the same mistakes you've been making with respect to China, thereby sabotaging allies and making the efforts of the ones actually arming, facilitating, and committing the genocide easier.

TL;DR join an org. Having a practical outlet to test theory to practice, and directly organize against arming and supporting Israel, is a much better use of your time. It will also help you form a more correct understanding of anti-imperialist struggle.

Figured it's important for others to know what it is you actually blocked me for. You're correct at least 70% of the time, but the last 30% is marred by letting reaction guide you. You didn't believe China was imperialist prior to the abstention, but the abstention was in line with standard Chinese foreign policy and nothing about China's economy changed from it. Nevertheless, you flipped nearly 180 on that.

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