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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The revolution will not be televised. It will be streamed and posted online…

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yeah? Which platform is gonna allow the masses to see it? Which platform won't bury it from the masses with algorithms?

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean, Peertube if anyone actually starts watching it lol

[–] tungsten5@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I so badly want peertube to become popular. But I can only find either very uninteresting shit posted there or weird things. Youtube needs to die

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, it'll take a long time for it to reach any kind of critical mass where people make stuff for it cause folks will watch it, and folks will be there to watch it because there's stuff there worth watching. Discovery that isn't a dumpster fire would help 😅

But even then, its almost guaranteed it won't be YouTube. The things that exist on YouTube largely can't really exist without monetization. Maybe sponsors will eventually care about peertube views? Or folks who monetize largely through merch might still be able to make things work? But youtube is largely a job, and people will generally stay where they get paid the best :/

But I still hope that folks other than FOSS or privacy people might slowly consider uploading to both, and eventually get to a point where it can exist in parallel for at least some amount of lower effort, or lower cost, more hobby video sharing

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, parallel uploads and hobby posting is the only thing we can expect from PeerTube right now. Like many others, I do want it to succeed, and I hate that my mom and I watch YT so much (it's basically her TV), but I've tried to use PT and there's just a lack of content, and difficulty in finding new interesting content. Sponsorships are gonna be the only main way to pay creators.

Like even in a magical world where network effect didn't exist and everyone joined it, PeerTube is still gonna struggle due to not having monetization. People love to argue, "Oh, but YT only pays them cents!" Exactly. A few cents per viewer is probably going to amount to more than the amount you would get from those who are actually willing to pay for your content, and if you get the algorithm sweet spot then you reach more people. The burden is already minimally placed on the viewer on YT (watch sponsors, join channel ($ sub), watch ads, buy merch, donate to Patreon/Ko-Fi/Personal Website/etc.), and PT ramps that burden up to 100 by having no ads nor algorithm. We have to do the work to share content and sponsor/support creators. In a perfect world, everyone has money and can give 5~10 dollars to channels they like every month or so. But the reality is I just can't think of how many creators I actually would pay to see exclusive content... Not at the monthly price of $5~, and to multiple people anyway.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

What we need is something like public access for web video.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, I watch tons of youtube myself and am currently working on cutting back.

Better content algorithms or discovery would help so damn much as a start though, it's really hard to find anything worth watching in the sea of "technically this is a video you can watch cause someone uploaded it to the internet". Thats why I like the Peertube comm on lemmy. Its mostly the same creators but its at least some curated exposure to what's available

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Victoria Explains is on there. I don't recognize anybody else.

Oh, and of course the obligatory Linux dudes speaking in German.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Du musst verstehen, Linux ist stark in unserer Heimat.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How do they pay for it if it becomes popular?

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that's the other really big issue. Mastodon and Lemmy can be donation run but hosting and streaming video is expensive as fuck

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's my point. The internet ia not any different to the media for the vast majority, who consume content and propaganda carefully curated by platforms which are owned and operated by billionaire oligarchs; most of which are based in the fascist dictatorship of the USA, with CEO's who have been granted military ranks and clearances by the fascist dictatorship.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I broadly agree with you. The platforms we're on play such a huge role in the dysfunction the western world is experiencing

with CEO's who have been granted military ranks

Is that a thing that has happened...? I'd expect it would at some point down the road but as an American I wasn't aware that had already happened... 😅