To be fair, the political compass itself is liberal nonsense designed to promote liberal worldviews. It's a deeply flawed system that harms more than it helps.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there a link that I can learn more? While I know the American version of the political compass is very broken, I still hope to have a universal gradient to measure all countries and movements

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There isn't really an "American version." Left vs right is broadly okay if framed as collectivized ownership as principle vs privatized ownership as principle, but economies in the real world aren't "pure," and trying to gauge how left or right a country is by proportion of the economy that is public vs private can be misleading. The next part, "libertarian vs authoritarian," is a false binary. The state is thoroughly linked to the mode of production, you don't just pick something on a board and create it in real life. There's no such thing as "libertarian capitalism," as an example. Centralization vs decentralization may make more sense, but that can also be misleading, as centralized systems can be more democratic than decentralized systems.

This is a pretty good, if long, video on the subject. The creator of the compass is also politically biased.

As a fun little side-note, I can answer the standard political compass quiz and get right around the bottom-left while being a Marxist-Leninist that approves of full collevtivization of production and central planning. Yet, at the same time, the quiz will put socialist states in the top left, seemingly based on how the creator wants to represent things. It's deeply flawed. Add on the fact that it's more of an idealist interpretation of political economy than a materialist one, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I will watch the video, I am currently wondering if I could use just three values, each corresponding to a color (red, blue green), so that generates an rgb color. I would find it easy to see a colored square next to any movement or organization.

Perhaps the first is how socialist (red scale), the second is how free ( blue scale) and the third is how centralized power would be (green scale). 0-255 each value

Edit: But I think the three variables would need to be chosen more carefully to be truly independent of each other. Too much interdependence between socialism and freedom for example

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trying to quantify political views is still a problem, though.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

It always is. Which is perhaps why the views should be ignored but their impacts on the majority of the people, if implemented, could be measured or extrapolated. And I would not like to measure things that vary between nations like trade or standards of living.