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They’re going up again?
I dropped all of those. I just have a couple services now.
CBC Gem (mostly to support CanCon and local media), one streamer, and I migrated to Qobuz for music.
I’m the spring I’ll go to yard sales for dvds/blu rays. They’re like a dollar there, which is reasonable.
A ton of content I liked is now owned by fascists and Larry Ellison, so I don’t even want to buy new media anymore.
Do you know what ORACLE stands for?
No
One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
laughs in ~~pirate~~ data archivist
If something isn't worth waiting just a bit of time to torrent it, as opposed to just instantly streaming it?
Good rule of thumb: It's slop, you don't actually care for it, it's just white noise.
I'm probably going to be allowing most of my streaming subscriptions to lapse over the next year or two. Gonna stick with Dropout and PBS, but that might be all.
+1 for PBS streaming. It's a great value and highly underrated.
No illusions on my part. RAID5 NAS with periodic disk archive backups.
Got what I need locally and intend to keep it that way. I'm sick of sites like Amazon with "Buy Now" buttons that are really "rent now via restrictive terms and only via devices we approve until we decide you no longer need access."
The price of ownership is maintenance.
Prices keep rising because people will pay ANY price to avoid personal responsibility.
maybe I've been living under a rock but I don't get all this emphasis on hosting. What's wrong with having a file on your device that you just play when you want to
That is the smallest scale of self hosting. The server and the client are the same device. It is also the most insecure way as you probably don't have any backups and very limited storage space.
Actually self hosting is the next step when you decide you want 5+ TB of data and have it automatically create backups. Digital storage media degrade pretty quickly and if you just have your movies on a hard drive in your computer, after 5-10 years you might start to lose quality or some files completely.
You do have the file on a device... On a server, and you can play it on any client you like
There's nothing wrong with that, but self hosting opens up so much more flexibility, much like cloud hosted services we're used to. Jellyfin is like a personal Netflix where you can watch your movies on any device at any time. The convenience is obvious. For most cloud hosted services, there's an alternative that can be self hosted, and then you actually own your shit.
Self-hosting allows you to have all your files on all your devices, like many have used to with the streaming services. Also, some smart TVs specifically require to connect to some server to grab movies from.
If you don't need any of that, regular hard drive will suit you best.
For me, it's a matter of restoring the convenience and UX that you've given up by leaving the big providers.
Mainly just multi-device access.
Sooo... where's the self-hosted material coming from if Bluray's aren't being produced any more?
If the high seas dries up, are we up shit creek and have to stream?
Webrips. That’s how we get movies and shows today without waiting for physical media being released
Yeah, piracy is the last bastion of privately controlled media files
Doesn't seem like it's going away though
Until they enforce government ID verification on every website & ban VPN's. Mark my words, that's what they'll try to push under the guise of "save the children"
The .torrent files would just be distributed over i2p or tor then. It'd be one add-on to the seedbox. Nothing would change for most people already familiar with docker etc.
If the high seas dry up, we shall sail the skies or the void itself.
Adapt, improvise, overcome.
If the high seas dries up, are we up shit creek and have to stream?
Actually support people who distribute under more reasonable terms/use Creative Commons/release to public domain.
If the high seas dry up I'll just hit my local public library and get all the books and other media from there
The thrift store?
They we go back to the old days of making our own recordings, which can be done through screen capture if DRM can't be cracked by the regular person.
I can't hear you over my 10TB storage disk of movies.
Rookie.
Edit: You gotta pump up those numbers.
Imagine not having a double digit bay NAS with triple digit Tebibytes of space.
Personally fed up with the greedy streaming companies. Price hikes, movies and series disappearing, lower quality because you don't pay for the premium deluxe 2.0 subscription, and the most annoying of all: advertisements, even though you do pay $$ for premium deluxe ultra 3.0 pro max subscription.
Selfhost 🙌🏻😊- music is always available, same with movies. Perfect!
...well, almost perfect. It really is quite expensive, but also very fun and rewarding getting it to work.
The expenses are mostly upfront though. I've spent like $400 on a relatively fancy NAS and two 3TB WD Red CMR drives five years ago, and since then, there was that.
Of course, depending on your use case, there could be extra expenses as well, some of them recurring:
Now, for the streaming alternative:
Your NAS system will pay off in a little over a year (maybe two years if you go all in with huge drives, fancy NAS configs, extra expenses here and there), and it's smooth sailing from there.
My unit works for 5 years already with no maintenance, is still fully supported by the manufacturer, and I don't expect to replace it in a few more years.
My dad and I never stopped pirating since we began watching series together since 2005.
Skill issue
I guess I'm a unicorn in that Netflix or equal has no draw for me. I'm not a movie watcher. I'm more interested in how they made it vs the actual movie content itself. I don't even watch TV of any kind. I have no Spotify or equal, music streaming platform. I just can't take the incessant ads every couple songs, and it's the same flipping ad over and over. Instead, I listen to my music collection which is fairly large, most of it from my days of running a licensed internet radio station back in the pre-Napster days, and read. Not much into fiction or novels etc. Give me history, news, anything to do with computers, etc. I mean, the internet is a vast repository of data, and I have yet to surf to the end of it. At no other time in human history have we had the sum total of the world's knowledge, maybe not wisdom, but knowledge, resting in the palm of our hand or sitting on a desktop. The great libraries of Alexandria would look like my magazine rack in comparison. I just find that reading helps me digest the information better, and in the case of news, it allows me to cross reference, highlight, search, compare ad nauseam, in search of the truth trifecta, which you'll never get on your TV screen.
Yes, it is over. The selection is shit, they pull shows that they have the rights to to manipulate people into watching what they want. The value of services like Netflix being a one stop shop for content are long gone. Enshitification in the name of control has reared its ugly head and the value is gone.
Thanks for reminding me. I still have shows I need to download.
Problem isn't the hosting, it's the content licensing. It's difficult to get a legal copy of the content that you can actually possess. Without that, doesn't matter if you are streaming the content through self-hosted servers or playing it locally. It's the content itself that is the real issue. It's often just not "sold" only "licensed" or "rented".