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[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 143 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I feel like those who believe him to be a vile scumbag will be reinforced in that belief and those that worship him will not be swayed in the slightest degree. Those that are grifting along don’t care either way.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 70 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

When he said he could shoot a man in the middle of Fifth Ave, he wasn't joking.

Many thought he was, that there's a justice system that would convict him... But I think it's finally dawning on these idiots too that indeed the orange shitstain was dead serious, and also correct.

At this point not even terabytes of video evidence would waver his fans. You could literally play a video of him raping an infant on every screen of Times Square, and the MAGAts would be doing Olympic gold level mental gymnastics to explain, excuse and justify the video. It's AI, he only did it because he was undercover FBI to take down the pedo rings, but what about XY of the Democrats who dared to have a dickpic on his personal laptop, and so on.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 weeks ago

i think that video would actually do it….
for a trumpet: “the email is just words epstein typed in an email… he name dropped epstein all the time, so he made up some stuff… he’s a pedo so obviously not trustworthy.”
it’s obvious to me that he’s a predator, especially having already been convicted, but there’s still no concrete proof.
i dunno, i’ve seen people rationalize “even if he did they were 17, not 10” (i know they were younger but anyways).
i saw a rumor that the epstein files have polaroids of a topless 15 year old girl sitting on trump’s lap….
but then they’ll just say it was a bikini top optional beach and he’s like grandpa or some shit… also i think someone in the fbi would’ve blown a whistle on that….
if we get video they’ll just say it was AI.
…..
my pet conspiracy theory is the reason all the billionaires are pushing AI so hard is because they’re all being blackmailed and once AL gets good enough it’ll nullify all video evidence…
otherwise it doesn’t make sense to me that they’re trying to shove it into everything when most people don’t want anything to do with it and they’re all hemorrhaging money….

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean I can't believe it can be any worse than whats on the public record. I mean when he was asked whats to young on stern and he just is sorta giggling without saying no of course not.

[–] Whirlygirl9@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what if he was in business with Epstein... in business selling children...

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

ok. you got me. that is worse than my limited imagination could come up with. still what he has said on video already is way past bad to me anyway.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

"Fake news!" they would cry. That reality denying phrase was unsurprisingly part of his political career from the very beginning for a reason.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's also a lot of people who just ignore things until there are lots of stories about evidence existing and then theh pay attention. That is the 20% or so chunk that started disapproving of Trump's actions instead of not having an opinion over time. The ones that switch who they vote for from election to election based on whatever whim they have at the moment.

This is a big deal to get those people to care about Trump's history of rape.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. People will silently disapprove for only so long. As more information comes out, he'll become unexcusable, to the point where openly supporting him will be asking for a long nap in a shallow ditch

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yup, by step-dad is in the second group. It’s honestly wild what kinds of mental gymnastics he has gone through to justify his vote. We had a surprisingly calm discussion about it the other day, and he genuinely doesn’t believe Trump was involved in any of it.

He thinks Trump was, at worst, just running in some tangential social circles. He believes a lot of the revelatory stuff (like in this post) has been faked from other heads of state to try and discredit him. Like all of the “yeah the DOJ confirmed this is real. The FBI has been sitting on this for literal years or even decades now, as part of their international child trafficking investigations. Multiple news sources have also independently confirmed the validity of the sources” stuff doesn’t matter to him, because he simply chooses not to believe any of it.

God Himself could descend from the heavens with a choir of angels, bust through my parents’ living room window, and slap my step-dad around while screaming that Trump is a pedophile who raped children on Epstein’s island. And my step-dad would defiantly look God in the eyes and tell Him that He’s wrong. There is no threshold that will make the proof believable for him. The goalposts will always be moved to require some new criteria before proof can be valid. And anything that does manage to meet the strict criteria for proof is too perfect, and obviously had to be manufactured in some grand worldwide conspiracy to discredit Trump. As Orwell wrote, “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

[–] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 107 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

With Trump unhinged now and letting the wolves run rampant, the number of missing kids in ICE raids needs to be examined. The Epstein island monstrosity likely didn’t end and wasn’t isolated.

Children just disappear now with no trace while a pedophile sex trafficker and his army hold every lever of power with no checks and balances.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember every accusation of republicans is projection of their own deeds. With how much republicans accuse others of doing the most horrible things to people, it is very scary to think what they are involved in

[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Every accusation is an admission with MAGA, it’s a tried and true formula for understanding where they are coming up with the bs they sling.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In the predawn hours, a contestant named Lauren Petrella — who, at age 22, was 24 years younger than the 46-year-old Trump — allegedly found Trump, unannounced and uninvited, in her bed.

“You said you don’t sleep with men on the first date,” he told her, according to the lawsuit filed by Harth. “Now it’s the second date, and here I am.”

[–] Whirlygirl9@kbin.melroy.org 31 points 3 weeks ago

ew. fucking. ew. and i heard it in his southpark voice.

Just picture his fat torso shoved into a big ol pair of stretched out tighty whiteys. Then he says this and all you can focus on is his morning breath.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 61 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

God used flawed men like Noah and King David. Just because Trump has made mistakes doesn't mean we should turn our backs on him.

No /s, because that's literally what you'll hear in the coming weeks.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

God used flawed men like Noah and King David

Noah got both his daughters pregnant. (Oops that was Lot, after god destroyed Sodom & Gamora for being cruel to poor people, and for some reason also killed Lot's wife)

The Bible calls King David a man after gods heart. Same King David that sent his bro (top general) on a suicide mission so he could steal his wife.

Just some context for peeps.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And these don't even tank top ten in the "worst shit committed by 'men of god' in the Bible". Hell it doesn't even make top 10 in the Old Testament.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

And let's not get into nasty things done by messiahs against roadside fig trees

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Noah got both his daughters pregnant.

Nah, that was Lot.

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And then god turned him into a pillar of salt... Oh, wait... that was his wife.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And happened before the pregnancies, IIRC.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yea you're right.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

O shit youre right

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Hell, that demon Bannon has already said it.

Bannon continued: “We have to finish what we started... I know this will drive you guys crazy, but [Trump] is a vehicle of divine providence. He’s an instrument. He’s very imperfect. He’s not churchy. But he is an instrument of divine will.”

“We need him for at least one more term,” Bannon reiterated, “and he’ll get that in ‘28.”

[emphasis mine]

https://www.commondreams.org/news/bannon-trump-third-term-plan

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 44 points 3 weeks ago

Is this an article about Donald j Trump, self admitted best friend to Jeffrey r Epstein, and current president of the United States, raping children?

[–] don@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

“That was his property, and he did what he wanted with it. What’s the problem?”

– Finest, Most Patriotic and Most (Yes, Twice) Religious Party the World Will Ever Know, Just Ask Them.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago

Lmao. Can't wait for this to go nowhere.

40% popularity rate btw.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People like to call Trump the American Hitler but Hitler at least didn’t diddle kids so openly.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Didn't he marry his 13 year old cousin?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No. The only woman he married was Eva Braun on the day before both of them committed suicide. She was age 33 at that time.

There are rumours that he had an affair with Geli Raubal, his niece, who lived with him from 1929 (then aged 21) until 1931 (then aged 23) when she committed suicide.

He first met her in 1924, when she was aged 16.

Hitler did enough bad shit, no need to invent extra details.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Idk probably. I’m probably wrong.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People seem to forget about the kid diddling when you open concentration camps.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Jerry Lee Lewis?

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd say this is arguably more openly. Was her age very public knowledge?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

No, because she didn't exist.

More details here: https://lemmy.world/post/38716969/20471255

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Am I reading correctly that Republicans released even more material? Secretly non-MAGAs?

Oh, and also... https://youtu.be/o23Noye5410

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They knew Dems would release more so they jumped to try to get the credit...

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Oh my, and her name is Midelfart.

I . . . I just can’t with this timeline.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't this just confirm the comically large check that was released previously from the birthday book?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/us/epstein-trump-birthday-book.html

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

And his third wife...

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So he sexually harassed a woman? That's legal and presidential now. Sure women could vote, maybe not in the future, but sexual harassment is now completely legal. Specially for Trump.

Is this not true? Should we vote away from Republicans at every possible chance we get? No matter how they change their story?

And Democrats too. We need to be choosy. No asshole should be allowed to control us.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well there was a kiddie fiddling convicted rapist who once said that when you are a star you can just grab women by the pussy...

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Extremely presidential. I wish someone like that took my healthcare away and gave me a 50 year mortgage so I could never afford a house.

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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Some people like that trump is a freak, they excuse the most heinous shit for the people that think he's a freak, but he's a necessary evil to take down the deep state or necessary to fulfil biblical prophecy, who in turn provide excuses for those who think he's kind of bad but will help the economy who in turn provide excuses for the "centrists" who didn't vote for him but think the accusations are blown out of proportion.

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