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i mean in a way tiktok is to blame or views on palestine... because tiktok was the first time you could see actual on the ground reporting from gaza instead of the sanitized version of the conflict in the us media. this is a good thing.
why is one of the very few people who could possibly lose to that disastrous GOP clown show allowed to speak about anything still‽
She blamed Bernie Sanders for her failure and got with a dude in the Epstein files. Why would anyone trust her judgment??
Go fight Donnie over Bubba's dick and shut the fuck up. Genocide is bad, mmmkay? Can't believe its hard to grasp.
It's only hard to grasp because her and the entire politician class have been receiving ~~donations~~ bribes from Israel for decades.
Why would context even matter? A genocide is a genocide no matter the context. It can NEVER be justified.
I have had similar discussions with a right-wing conspiracy theorist (friend of my dad) that also used to justify genocide. I do think and hope that our conversation has led to some positive change in his views. He used to get super triggered when I called what is happening is Palestine a genocide but today I think he accepts it. Or at least he no longer denies it completely. I have stood my ground and kept challenging whatever he has said.
Don't give up on the people around you! Take the discussion, challenge their views. Call out any attempt to justify genocide. You don't need to argue with these people about facts, history or whatever. Just a call out of any attempt to justify genocide is enough. Don't let them keep spreading their hate unchallenged. Violence and hate can never win.
The former US secretary of state described it as “serious problem for democracy”, remarking that when she attempted to have “reasonable discussions” with young people, it was challenging because “they did not know history, they had very little context, and what they were being told on social media was not just one-sided, it was pure propaganda".
Look, lady, at some point the prior history doesn't matter. The history we're experiencing right the fuck now is a single day, a single attack, by Hamas responded to by two fucking solid years of calculated extermination and nullification of the Palestinian people.
It doesn't fucking matter what happened thirty god damned years ago when the average age in Gaza before Oct 7th 2023 was fucking sixteen! Guess what Hillary you fucking idiot, 16 year olds haven't been alive long enough to have had anything to fucking do with that history!
The fucking audacity of her ass to be talking about the "history!"
Of all people, this bitch deserved to lose to Trump. She even used her connections to promote him in the media because she was fucksure she would end up in the general election against Jeb Bush. That's what you get for fucking over Bernie Sanders!
Agreed. These "centrists" can go sit on a cactus
We need to stop calling them centrists and call a spade a spade. They're conservatives, plain and simple.
I don’t even like using that stupid left-right sliding scale to describe American politicians anymore. That’s not what most of these people are. They are just conduits for oligarchy to filter money from the working class to the elites and don’t hold any real personal ideology beyond that. They campaign on divisive social issues but for the majority of them that’s really where it truly ends within the context of political ideology as a working class man OR as someone who studies the philosophy of politics understands it.
Well I mean even if you do look back historically Israel took the land from the Palestinians and displaced like 700,000 of them.
That is why that war will never, ever end. They stole that land. It wasn't theirs.
I like how they leave out that part of history though. Don't wanna talk about that or you're antisemitic which is absolutely bullshit.
Steal peoples land and then act all surprised when generations of them want you to die and get their land back. Seems simple enough.
a single day, a single attack, by Hamas
October 7th could best be described as a concentration camp prison break.
Israel is an illegitimate state that has behaved monstrously from the beginning. So even if you read the history you’ll realize that Israel is the problem and always has been.
I don't use tiktok
Am pro palestine
make it make sense
"Tiktok" is when people use media old people can't be arsed to learn about.
This is all media, new and old, that they aren't already using.
Prime example of how boomers lack media literacy skills.
Hey lady ! What the fuck happened to your face !? You look maga
She should Pokemon Go the fuck out of politics.
More like Pokemon Go to the grave
No one likes you or your opinions, Hillary. Your time was over when you lost to Piggy. That was 11 years ago. Now just stfu.
This is how I know she has no shame. If I had lost to the orange kiddie fiddling rapist (in what was the easiest race to win in a long time) then I could never face the world because of the shame.
It would be unbearable for me.
I'd live as a hermit for the rest of my life, and on my death I'd just use the funeral as a stage to apologise for allowing the disgusting blob of a cunt to win.
9 years not 11, just seems like a lot longer. Almost 10 at this point I guess.
Ah yes, because some historical context will certainly justify the genocide.
Even then it doesn't. Palestinians have been there for thousands of years. They didn't just appear overnight. They're the remnants of Canaanites and Jews who stayed after they were exiled. Many of them adopted Islam and Arab culture during the conquests. Arabs didn't come in and wipe out the indigenous population and replace them. Same with Egyptian, Libyan, and Turkish people. That's why they're not all the same and have drastically different cultures and languages, and not just standard Arabic.
Historical context show that palestinians was victim of settler colonialism and ethrnic cleansing
Old dems should stfu
Sadly the "New Dems" is Richie Torres and Hakeem Jeffries.
So what Hillary is saying is the Democrat position, not just the old guard.
Hillary Clinton is literally a psychopath
Get bombed and tortured in an Israeli concentration camp you fucking bitch
I think the Google Maps view of the whole fucking Middle East is why people support Palestine
"There didn't used to be a hole there....something ain't right"
Better yet, just look at historical maps of the region and see how long the Zionist effort has been going on. She’s out of touch and THATS WHY SHE LOST TO TRUMP.
I think the reason they are pro-Palestine is because Israel is committing crimes against humanity, it really is that simple.
gee maybe you should ask your mentor, arch fucking ghoul nixon enabler Henry Kissinger for some advice IN HELL
I can't believe people still pay her to speak at these events. What a waste of money.
Not at all. She's a node in a national network of reactionary plutocrats. What you're hearing is the echo of dozens of NYC billionaires and their multi-millionaire subordinates all chanting the same thing.
Hillary is a megaphone one group of rich people use to talk to another
That's weird because I've never been on that app, am older, and probably hold some similar views. So where are my views coming from? You just have to have a heart and then you can see things correctly. It's only fair to hold standards against everyone. Israel doesn't get a pass. Not on morality.
Hillary Clinton is a pedophile
I spent two years in college studying the history of the Middle East and specifically the conflict between Israel and Palestine. I have never been on TikTok. Then where the fuck did my pro-Palestine views come from? I know the history very well and Israel has been unreasonable assholes from the beginning. Yes, Hamas and Palestine need to stop leading with violence, but when you're fighting for your country's literal existence it's a bit of a moral grey area. The whole situation is a shit show and it infuriates me that Israel has so much support from the US. Without the 800lb gorilla backing them I feel like they'd have been forced to negotiate a reasonable solution long ago. Instead, here we are with a wildly disproportionate response that is 2 years long and the US has effectively cheered them on.
Hilary and her entire generation of politicians can get fucked.
Speaking on Tuesday at a summit hosted by the right-wing Israeli paper Israel Hayom in New York City
She's catering to the far-right Israeli crowd under the illusion that interest group isn't popularly considered toxic & waning in influence/political power.
While I concede it's not only possible, but in fact, likely that many people are unaware of the 10 volume set of War and Peace size novels which recount the history of conflict in the Middle East, I find it incredibly out-of-touch that she can't understand that the starving and murder of an entire ethnic group is considered abhorrent by a large amount of the youth.
We don't need to know every facet to know genocide when we see it. I'm so tired of the constant Israel propaganda here in the states. You'd think they were the superpower and we were completely beholden to them in every way with the amount of kowtowing our politicians do. It's insane.
Is she seriously stuck on the whole "Israel doesn't bomb hospitals" crap?
Fuck you bitch. We should have had Bernie Sanders as our president, instead we got Hilary as a failed candidate
Hillary... You're barely a has-been at best, and Bill cuck at worst. Kindly fuck off into obscurity and even more irrelevance, nobody wants to hear your dog shit, conservative opinion.
Hillary should worry more about Bill being in the epstein files and stfu
Why are these asshats so reluctant to admit that Isreal is in the wrong?!?
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