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[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Yup, the UK once again creating a needlessly convoluted and harmful solution to an already solved problem.

I would laugh if I didn’t live here.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey...we already have that without needing to use GPS. No really, we have that, without needing to use GPS. No. Really. We have two systems in fact.

We have m-tickets. Most major train, tram and bus companies in the UK have that. You can go onto your phone and buy a ticket without the need for GPS tracking. There's also Contactless on your phone. My city has something called TapTapCap/ToTo. On the buses, you can pay for your fare by tapping on a contactless terminal and it tracks how many journeys you make and caps the fare at the price of a day ticket if you make more than three Journeys. The Trams here have ToTo which is the same deal, but you have to tap on at the smart card terminal and tap off at your destination, as long as you do that and don't go to the Airport: you get the same deal.

That can easily be implemented. Fuck, mTickets have been implimented in Scotland. All you'd need to do is adapt the smartcard terminals, which use the technology as the bus passes, to do something like taptapcap. And before you say "oooh, we couldn't possibly put Smartcard totems on remote stations or Parliamentary stations", there are smart card terminals on every station on the West Highland Line. Yes, including the Fort William to Malaig section. There are Smartcard terminals on the Far North and Kyle of Lochalsh Lines. If Scotrail can do that at places like Dunrobin Castle, GBR can put Smartcard Terminals at Drigg, no GPS surveillance required.

We do the same in my part of the US where transit kinda sucks. You just tap a credit card (or phone w/ contactless payments) or physical card w/ chip on any bus or train and it charges the appropriate amount (i.e. day pass if you exceed some amount). It's not complicated, you just tap when you get on, and tap when you get off, and as long as you use the same payment method, it just works.

It's not complicated at all. At no point is GPS tracking needed, you just need to process the payment and link them together based on the unique identifier you're already using to process payments.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Classic UK

Here, have this sensible modernisation...... With a side of surveillance

Nah, it's surveillance with a side of sensible modernization.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fucking 1984 shit right here and everyone is gonna love it

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, there's JKR, she wrote books pretty closely describing how powerful and arbitrarily unbalanced a computerized world will be, presented as magic. But she's a TERF, so nothing she wrote apparently has value. Or maybe she's a plagiarist, so again nothing she wrote apparently has value, except her plagiarism describes well current events and its sources don't.

I don't think she did that consciously, more like felt "something" in the air. But see the priorities of the public, in her not being a nice person and her having described the future correctly.

Also see the Matrix.

In general I think it's good to remember the initial reception of everything, if you were around then. Because in a few years power dynamic (hating on JKR for being TERF, and her using her fame to promote such views, - both these are that) always regulates the image of any work into something sterile and neutered.

We've had plenty of good art predicting today, but we've been taught after some time that it's capitalist, consumerist, non-original, empty, overrated and has asshole authors.

That direction of thought is wrong. Marcus Aurelius once made a bath for his wife - filled with her lover's blood ; doesn't seem to affect the value of his philosophy. Much of the classics in music was made by order for rich people for their entertainment and prestige. Nothing is life is truly original. And whether something is empty is not decided by the public opinion, it's decided by the reader.

So. We've had some preparation. Less than desired, and impeded by the enemy, as is the expectation always. It's not decided yet.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't realise jkr meant that interpretation but its definitely something to consider.

I've always believed one must separate art from the artist lest all works are reduced to nothing given enough time. People love to dismiss modern works based on the authors opinions yet everyone through history is bad by modern standards. We must judge people by the context of their time. For example both Churchill and Disney where famously antisemitic yet both are now praised for their efforts against the Nazis.

Haven't read any Marcus Aurelius I'm reading Plato at the moment so I'll add it to the list.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't think she consciously did, but HP definitely features abuse and misuse of authority left and right, main characters fighting and bypassing it, injustice, fascism, evil being attractive (at least in the first two books she deliberately makes the world of pure-blood wizards more "magical" than that of the rest, and Harry almost being accepted to it or thinking he would be, except that's not so), public judgement being always wrong (talking to snakes, Harry being considered cuckoo, werewolves, and what not), evil being possibly all-poweful (the Taboo spell and such), one can go on and on.

And then Harry becoming an Auror, thus sort of a magical peeler, which is a common criticism - well, law enforcement is a necessary task. In a non-degenerate system that involves preventing murder, rape, stopping human trafficking operations.

It's funny how people usually start with the HP world mechanics being bad, - unbalanced, arbitrary, calling spells out of thin air, - while that's how our world works right now, except they teach very little magic here (BTW, Racket is very cool - I'm again stalling at what I'm trying to do, though, just no willpower at all). Also notice Umbridge in the book 5, in the real world fighting evil with something you always carry with yourself and only skill being important is not a thing usually, for most intents and purposes, except computers.

[–] Eldaroth@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use this all the time, it's great.

[–] Eldaroth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah only downside, at least on Android, don't know how it is on iOS, you need to activate all google location accuracy options in order to make it work. Just using the built-in GPS is not sufficient.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why they can’t just have turnstiles at the major stations ? I mean that’s how most places work anyway? If someone stays on for a further stop outside the stiles it’s only a short leg anyway.

What’s the point?

[–] Highlandcow@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

The UK literally already does and also on trains your tickets get randomly checked too so even if your moving between small stations there is a chance you'll youll caught

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Germany had something like this for a while which which was nice because it was useable in most major cities. Sadly the system has been discontinued: https://www.heise.de/news/Ticketdienst-Touch-Travel-stirbt-in-wenigen-Wochen-3344661.html