I upgraded my partners computer to windows 10 IOT.
Windows 11 itself+AI were factors, but the hardware restrictions were too.
this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2025
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All these articles mention 10 being dead, but free extended support is offered by Microsoft with a couple of clicks until next year so really it's not. Massgrave gives you 3 I believe, and IOT is even longer.
Sure, but that's just postponing the inevitable. And Microsoft is a company not to be trusted at this point. You're one update away, yes, even on Windows 10, from being forced bullshit down your throat.
I already have to use Windows 11 at work so I know the problems it comes with and I absolutely refuse to upgrade at home. I'd sooner go to exclusively Linux than upgrade at this point. I've already been duel booting Linux and Windows at home just in case I gotta bail completely. And as someone that has tried Linux back in 2015 it is leaps and bounds better than it used to be. Besides certain proprietary software you can basically do 80% of what you can on Windows at this point.
And vast majority would rather become ransomware targets than try Windows alternatives.
I have used MS for years and also interacting with linux based server systems daily. I do stick with windows, but I also disable most of AI related features (I used auto captioning in some cases). While I use AI daily it is a local sandboxed instance. I think they should focus on other areas, but every tech company is FOMO on AI.
I still have a dual-boot desktop that I keep a copy of Windows 10 on for one or two bits of software that I can't get 100% working in Wine, and yeah I'm definitely not upgrading. For one thing I can't because it's an older CPU that doesn't have TPM on it, but also because of the AI thing.
The idea that Microsoft is expecting me to purchase new hardware (which is now ludicrously expensive because of companies like Microsoft going all-in on AI slop) so that I can 'upgrade' and make it easier for them to use their AI slop spyware to harvest my info is so preposterously arrogant and evil that I actually find it super funny.
It's like if someone was going to rob you and they expected you to go purchase and supply the gun they use to stick you up with lol.