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If they truly believe in their AI offerings, they should release them as an extension so users can choose to install them. You only bundle shit people don't want. If it's good, you distribute it stand-alone.
It's not possible to bundle everything as an extension. Some things do not work that way.
Hey tech companies. Consumers do not want more AI, they want less of it. Maybe we just need to get the word out?
Exactly this. I would love to see just one tech company stand up and say we are not doing AI, our AI budget is $0 and our product will not ship with AI. If you really want to use AI with our system you can download a plug-in or something but we won't waste our time writing one.
They would get a million users overnight.
WTF man, I just want a fucking browser.
No you don't, now suck down your government mandated AI slop and say thank you — you philistine.
Firefox to evolve into not existing.
Yeah I just don't understand the strategy here. You're not going to Out-AI Google and Microsoft, and so I don't know who both wants an "AI Browser" but wants an alternative to the offerings of those companies.
Usually i would say people just won't care. But firefox only has like a 2% user base anyway, and that makes me think that it's mainly by enthusiasts, and they are more likely to just hop off. I hope they go down with their shitty AI and set an example.
First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.
That's a good idea to put first. Of course, like do no evil, priorities change, so we'll need to keep a close eye on this.
Second: our business model must align with trust. We will grow through transparent monetization that people recognize and value.
Transparent is good, but if he things he's going to add value to monetization, he's smoking crack. There's nothing we want from a browser that's not already provided by a plugin.
Third: Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.
Nobody wants that. We already had all we wanted from them in trusted software.
But why !? Chatbots are useful enough, I don't need AI anywhere else than when I explicitly choose to use it on my terms !
You wanna make money ? Make a chatbot that lies less and/or doesn't reinforce people into their delusions, or one that runs for cheaper, or both.
AI is useful. Just like knives are useful. Doesn't mean I want every object I own to also somehow be or contain multiple knives 😅
More often than not, a faster horse is actually all we need.
I don't think anyone actually read the announcement, just the headline. Here was the new CEOs actual first point.
"First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it."
AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn ~~off~~ on. That's how it should be.
It should read:
AI should always be opt-in
There was no easy way to turn it off without meddling with about:config. If they were serious and true to their word this would've been be the default from the start.
First, there should be a survey on what users actually want, no?
Because if no one wants AI and it's "always a choice", what you really do is waste considerable resources with as the only results, more settings users have to go through before starting using their browsers.
WE. DON'T. WANT. THIS.
Mozilla, for the love of god, stop cramming AI into the browser when the vast majority of your users just want a privacy-respecting browser that works.
I've said it before, and I've said it again: I will not donate any more money to the Mozilla foundation until they stop cramming AI into everything, and you should too.
Read what the new CEO says, and it doesn't seem as bad. In the interview, he states that they'll be adding AI with options, and since they're not beholden to any one company, the user can choose what is best for them.
My guess: A sidebar chat you can disable, which allows you to pick your provider, and an about:config that let's you customize the URL for local AI.
Would I rather time be devoted elsewhere? Yes. Would this be horrible? Nah.
That being said, I could be totally wrong.
how would this afffect the forked versions like Waterfox, LibreWolf, IronFox? The AI part is a separated feature from mainline Firefox branch, so forks can choose not to include it?
LibreWolf all the way
I like to imagine that these CEOs just get like a million AI emails a day from alt accounts of Sam Altman begging them to put AI in everything and they're all too stupud to realize it.
Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.
Come on, this isn't Reddit, at least skim the article before you start with the performative outrage.
Hahaha fuck Firefox. Been saying it for years. Used to be the goat. Hasn't been for a decade and a half.

Nnnoooooo you dumb bastards
Well hopefully the different forks have their ducks in a row to strip all these “features” out down the road. So glad I use LibreWolf and not Firefox proper anymore
Nope, time for a new browser.