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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

You know there isn't anything salvageable when media has to resort to the "he was a family first man".

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

Have you considered he had a wife and two kids? Heartbreaking.

I wish that family a swift recovery. It must have been quite traumatizing having to live with him for so long.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"He wasn't afraid to speak his mind", and what were his opinions? No one that's "mourning" calls out his views specifically lol

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Saying this about a cryptofascist is crazy 😭

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

not even crypto, he was just an overt fascist

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Easy to not be afraid to speak your mind when you're a paid puppet with a bunch of millionaires' hands up your ass

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Step forward: we hear
That you are a good man.
You cannot be bought, but the lightning
Which strikes the house, also
Cannot be bought.
You hold to what you said.
But what did you say?
You are honest, you say your opinion.
Which opinion?
You are brave.
Against whom?
You are wise.
For whom?
You do not consider your personal advantages.
Whose advantages do you consider then?
You are a good friend.
Are you also a good friend of the good people?

Hear us then: we know.
You are our enemy. This is why we shall
Now put you in front of a wall. But in consideration of your merits and good qualities
We shall put you in front of a good wall and shoot you
With a good bullet from a good gun and bury you
With a good shovel in the good earth.

Also, why don't we have Brecht emojis?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

Thehardtimes is the only source i can trust anymore

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think reading reactions to his death is a very good way to measure political compasses of a publication.

Not just to find those which are obviously far right; but to see how the non fascists ones are changing

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair, the political compass itself is liberal nonsense designed to promote liberal worldviews. It's a deeply flawed system that harms more than it helps.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there a link that I can learn more? While I know the American version of the political compass is very broken, I still hope to have a universal gradient to measure all countries and movements

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There isn't really an "American version." Left vs right is broadly okay if framed as collectivized ownership as principle vs privatized ownership as principle, but economies in the real world aren't "pure," and trying to gauge how left or right a country is by proportion of the economy that is public vs private can be misleading. The next part, "libertarian vs authoritarian," is a false binary. The state is thoroughly linked to the mode of production, you don't just pick something on a board and create it in real life. There's no such thing as "libertarian capitalism," as an example. Centralization vs decentralization may make more sense, but that can also be misleading, as centralized systems can be more democratic than decentralized systems.

This is a pretty good, if long, video on the subject. The creator of the compass is also politically biased.

As a fun little side-note, I can answer the standard political compass quiz and get right around the bottom-left while being a Marxist-Leninist that approves of full collevtivization of production and central planning. Yet, at the same time, the quiz will put socialist states in the top left, seemingly based on how the creator wants to represent things. It's deeply flawed. Add on the fact that it's more of an idealist interpretation of political economy than a materialist one, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I will watch the video, I am currently wondering if I could use just three values, each corresponding to a color (red, blue green), so that generates an rgb color. I would find it easy to see a colored square next to any movement or organization.

Perhaps the first is how socialist (red scale), the second is how free ( blue scale) and the third is how centralized power would be (green scale). 0-255 each value

Edit: But I think the three variables would need to be chosen more carefully to be truly independent of each other. Too much interdependence between socialism and freedom for example

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trying to quantify political views is still a problem, though.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

It always is. Which is perhaps why the views should be ignored but their impacts on the majority of the people, if implemented, could be measured or extrapolated. And I would not like to measure things that vary between nations like trade or standards of living.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

CNN will just state Kirk's political positions as something positive

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago