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[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biden was certified as what? The winner

[–] PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Being certified as the winner is not the same as being the winner. There's nothing contradictory about both claiming Biden was certified and claiming Biden was falsely certified - so this isn't like the "state's right to what?" thing, finishing the sentence for them doesn't change the statement.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It doesn't need to be a contradiction to be obvious weasel words they're using to literally avoid saying a few very specific words: "Biden won" or "Trump lost"

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

That's a pretty nuanced take. I don't think Trump can appreciate that level of nuance and would be outraged anyway.

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 98 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Twitter is just for nazis now, 2020 was NOT rigged but 2024 sure as fuck was

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

2020 was mostly definitely rigged, thats why trump kept saying it was rigged. he shut up real quick when he won the 24 eleciton. and dems are afraid to call it rigged themselves.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

As per usual, all the Republicans have to do is accuse the Democrats of it first. Biden even refused to see the law enforced against the Republicans after they tried to end the Republic in all but name and fix elections, including a culmination where he tried to take Congress hostage and personally go down to the Capitol and force those lawmakers to sign away the Republic under an angry mob and his secret service detail.

And then paint that refusal to defend the Republic which is the reason for being of our leaders, as some Noble Act.

Allowing the captured justice department to remain so and fail in their statutory duties. These fucking Democrats are so fucking worthless the party needs all new staffing, from the top spots on down to the lowest spots in the party, they need to raze and burn the whole thing and build up with people that do not suck.

No air support on anything related to the former administration, all because the Republicans projected their own qualities onto Joe biden. How did we, the people that want reform and refuse to be ass fucked by the rich without our consent, turn into the party of weakness? I want to change that.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

This strategy works for them every goddamn time. Accuse your opponent of what you're doing/about to do, muddy the waters, maybe even redefine a few words in the process...

Then when they do the thing, and their opponents try to point it out, nobody even believes it's true.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were gaslit into accepting 2024 no matter what

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More of a queeflit situation. And or quafflit.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hector@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Dicks can fart?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

2020 was rigged -- for Trump. That's why Trump was so convinced that he should have won.

There were enough protections in place to keep him from winning.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And despite Democrats controlling the executive branch there were allowed to not only get away with trying to steal the election but to gain access to the inner workings of all the voting machines and software, sent death threats to all voting officials in swing states without fucking consequence, literally a handful of prosecutions despite hundreds over the legal line as detailed by Reuters investigations, like what the fuck good does it do getting a democrat in there? A lot of people stuck their necks out to protect democracy and we're left as the military would say with their ass hanging in the breeze.

Under Fire by Republicans and not protected by democrats.

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[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (37 children)

I don't mean to come off as a conservative cunt, but what evidence is there that 2024 was rigged?

As an outside observer all I saw was sexism and racism handing the election to trump, or I guess democrats being so high on their own supply that they thought the right time to run a PoC woman as candidate was at a 70 year high of fascism

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Beaides stolen ballot boxes and firebombed ones, some data scientists suggested the way the data came in numbers/volume by region or some anomolies, suggested tampering of some kind. Since democrats didn't raise a stink, I guess it no longer matters

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[–] Mika@piefed.ca 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Idk about the elections, but as a Ukrainian I've seen the stark difference in about a half a year since he bought twitter.

He manually switched off visibility for NAFO. Like as if they became shadowbanned, invisible to the "for you" feed.

He made it so big Ukrainian accounts are mostly visible to Ukrainians only. This was enough not to make them leave the platform but silenced their voices to the outside world.

It's quite obvious we were just the testing grounds, USA elections were the real deal.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Allowing voting machines to connect to Starlink and that largely happening in the rural areas of swing states, coupled with the snarky “we have a plan” comments and jokes, should raise more concern that it has thus far.

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[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Okay this is what I've gleened from a site posted often about it (something about free elections? Or has election in the url)I am not sure where I sit but given Trump's history, his many statements while campaigning it's not hard to believe there wasn't cheating but if it's this who knows.

There a number of voting areas that apparently had anomalies that haven't been seen to that level (ouch just read that as Trump but this line is apparently from people who look into this stuff) in previous elections. I forget the exact details but it's a link posted often online. Something to do with people voting for Trump but Democrats down ticket or just voting for Trump and leaving the less blank (forget exactly). These were only noticed on in person voting whereas the statistics of the mail in votes did not match this pattern. The other part being that it was one sided, there was no similar notice on Harris's votes. If I recall this pattern was similar for mail in between the two but not for in person voting. Also something called the Russian Tail in voting, after so many votes a certain amount went to Trump similar to Putin's votes. Again I haven't looked into this but that is some of what was noticed beyond the direct lawsuits as well.

As far as I know even if he cheated it doesn't matter at this point cause he was certified anyways. And if people aren't pissed off about what the US has become to change anything I don't think it makes a difference if Trump just came out and admitted it. I'd be curious just to know but I'm also still curious what happened to my motorbike toy from when I was 8 so it's not an exclusive list.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Well, you have the basics like voter suppression in just about every way (e.g., gerrymandering, shutting down polling places, not enough voting machines, laws against helping people waiting in lines, preventing ex-cons from voting, etc.), actively intimidating voters at the polls, active misinformation (e.g., automated messages telling people the wrong dates for the election), etc.

Now, we know about one attempt to mess with the voting that was caught. They're looking to overturn those peoples' convictions.

I'm sure there is more that I'm leaving out. Now, that may not be what you were talking about, but that's rigged in my opinion. Also, the electoral college, the voting system (NPV or RCV would be better).

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gerrymandering doesn't effect the presidential election (except for maybe suppressing turnout of people who may feel like they don't matter). I've seen far too many people who think it does.

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[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Trumpers filed 70 some lawsuits. I guess that alone means Trump actually won in 2020.

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Do yourself a favor and don’t click through.

X is worse than YouTube comments were a decade ago. Just a total cesspool.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 46 points 1 day ago

Its a nazi site

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Surprised more nominees don't come out swinging. "The election of 2020 had sever irregularities consistent with the high rate of mail in voting and we all know Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster so what won't these people do to undermine democracy? Follow the clues! WWG1WGA!!"

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