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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Has anyone else noticed some delivery apps using AI generated images for food items when a restaurant doesn't have an actual photo?

Always looks fucking awful too. How is that in any way helpful? "Here is what a slice of pizza generally looks like". Cool. Thanks, I guess.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This made me realize, the only last remaining good thing about mcdonalds, the art of making the fake food good looking photos, will soon be replaced by actual AI slop.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I much prefer AI slop for menu thumbnails to carefully crafted lies. at least I know it's inaccurate

[–] laz@pawb.social 1 points 23 hours ago

carefully crafted lies are at least a bias approximation of the actual product done by people that know what the actual product look like. That's still better than something misleading that not everyone can identify.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 day ago

God the number of people I've seen try to use LLMs to "detect" AI generated photos/text......

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The fact that it responded only with "no" implies a convo exchange previously, in which it was prompted to either

  • respond exactly with "no"

or

  • keep the response short

it seems like the first case applies here, since it actually gives a little post-amble at the image gen response.

Apparently, with chatgpt, it foesnt actually look st the generated image. Otherwise it would be able to tell, that the users image is equivalent to the generated one (since the tokens would be literally identical, so its like asking an llm "are these two paragraphs the same text?"

aaaaaaanyway- dont use VLMs to check if an image was generated! there r actual models trained for that task. VLMs r not.

[–] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I see these kinds of misunderstandings all the time with people asking ChatGPT to do something with an image, and then it failing and apologizing and doing the same. The LLM doesn't do anything with the image, it's calling some other service to do it. It can't apologize for the output, or try harder to "make sure" that glass of wine is full to the brim, what it says and does in these cases is entirely disconnected.

Even "recognizing" details in an image, some other service is parsing the image and writing a text description for the LLM. It's not the same service as the one that does the generation, no part of this pipeline would ever have the chance to realize "hey, this is the same image".

I'm on break, I clicked on the image, and one of my 7-year-old students standing behind me saw it and immediately said "ChatGPT". Ha!

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No

lol

Does ChatGPT even answer that monosyllabically?

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does ChatGPT even answer that monosyllabically?

Excellent question. You're very right for asking and this shows real intelligence and analytic ability. Let's have a deeper look at the information I've found:

Some users say: no. Others report: maybe, but mostly no.

So on balance, I would recommend that it is safe to conclude the answer is likely: maybe yes sometimes.

Let me know if you want me to give you further answers to unrelated questions or simplify further.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Perfect. Long winded, unnecessary flattery, hedged non-answer. Just what I need in a loyal companion.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

…..considering if you don’t think the ai hasn’t been coded around this case, it’s interesting to wonder the types of ways it might say yes.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think I follow your comment.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, ai, as we use it today, is just a LLM. Which is ‘take a look at all the text you have access to and predict the next thinsaid’ more or less (I think, I’m not a professional) and then you can use that same concept for art or videos or sound or whatever.

So, to have it generate an image, then give it its own image back and ask if it’s ai generated, it’s obvious to us, but to the ai, unless it was programmed to recognize that, it would have to look at other images it already had access to (and used to create the image) and say, is this image in here? Or if I can process what does an ai generated image contain.

Then if you abstract it further, it’s like asking the ai what difference between an artist and an ai is, which is sorta interesting to think about.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Additionally, when you feed an image into a prompt UI, it simply generates a text description of the image using image recognition and feeds it into the LLM.

All the LLM receives is "Picture containing a slice of pizza", it has no control over the granularity of the image recognition software, nor is that software designed to provide anything more than OCR and a rough description of the image by way of pattern matching.