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Trump says his tariff revenues will both pay down America’s $37 trillion debt and possibly fund a public “dividend,” but Treasury data shows they fall short of even covering monthly interest costs.

In exclusive interviews with Fortune, Wharton’s Professor Joao Gomes and AEI’s Desmond Lachman warned that while tariffs may slow debt growth, they won’t meaningfully reduce it.

Markets are largely skeptical of Trump’s math despite some unconventional revenue wins.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

So Republicans are going to massively increase the national debt by trillions of dollars and the money will be made up via the backs of the poor and working class.

Great plan, glad Americans voted for this...

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The national debt has been skyrocketing.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

You see there's a bug where once the national debt reaches a certain treshold it turns into credit.

[–] mbrailer@mstdn.social 52 points 18 hours ago

@MicroWave Trump and his surrogates have said at different times that tariffs would (A) pay down the national debt and (B) increase domestic manufacturing.

But if (B) happens, then tariff revenue falls. And if (A) happens, it will mean manufacturing remained overseas.

These goals are perfectly contradictory.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 58 points 20 hours ago

Public dividend

I've got an idea! Let's raise taxes on everyone and then give them checks for 1% of it and call it a dividend!

Trump runs this country like I ran my cities in Sim City 2000 when I was 10.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 33 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Best guess - is he so stupid he believes this or so dishonest he pretends?

Yes, he lies literally non-stop, so that's always the safe bet, but with this tariff thing in particular, he seems to sincerely believe that they're some kind of magic, and he fairly obviously has no idea how they actually work. So it seems at least possible that he genuinely believes this.

Which would take a special kind of stupid, but if there's anyone capable of it, it's Trump.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Stupid? Would you consider someone who stares at the sun without eye protection or recommends drinking bleach to prevent diseases stupid?

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Depends. who is recommending that to whom?

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Stares at the sun during an eclipse. Need to make it explicit how dumb he is.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 7 points 18 hours ago

Only the most stable genius.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Krasnov does whatever he's been told recently. He doesn't give half a shit what's true. As in truely doesn't know or care what's true.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

Based on his actual behavior, his marching orders have been to weaken the US seconomy, betray allies (especially in alliances that might constrain Russia), and destroy US soft power in science, education and culture.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

What I understand he has been fixed on tariffs since the 80's. Plus this also the man who bankrupted 3 casinos. And those are supposed to be guaranteed cash machines.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

And ultimately, for someone doing as much damage as Trump, questions of his intentions are irrelevant. He must be stopped.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Clown. country. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 4 points 16 hours ago

Fascism is coming for Canada.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

Last time all of the money went back to the farmers to silence them... It's not even a question of amount, they will never help the US budget because it will go towards businesses who complain about this and other ways Trump is fucking them.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Worked in south america

oh no thats right it didn't

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yale economist interviewed by the NYT has a slightly more nuanced opinion:

"In a world where I think we are fiscally unsustainable, debt to gross domestic product is rising much too quickly. Part of the reason for that is the tax bill that was passed last month, but it’s rising. Finding ways to raise $3 trillion is a feat, and that’s just a fact."

(She estimates $3T from tariffs)

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, $3T is a lot for the American consumer to pay. Does that assume payment from places that have just decided to not do business at all with the US?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

Tariff revenues come from the importers, so it assumes payment from the Americans who can no longer afford to import the now-too-expensive foreign goods.