sounds like battle royale from hell
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Err, that's a nice little quip but that bit about shooting isn't even remotely close to reality.
Example: There's about 80,000 - 100,000 gun related injuries in the USA per year. That's about 250 people getting shot each day. However, we are working against a population of ~330,000,000 in the USA. If you take the 100,000 / 333,000,000 = 0.0003. That's 0.0003 per year per person. So the chance of a person getting shot in a year in the USA is about 1 in 3,330.
To look at this in another way, the fellow said there's a group of 400 people and 1 is shot each day. That means in 1 year, nearly everyone in the room would have been shot, and in 2 years some people would be shot twice.
Look, the USA is pretty disgusting with some issues, but if you want to throw numbers around, at least make them accurate, otherwise it undermines the whole argument.
Ackshully
You don't think it's important to know the ACTUAL numbers when discussing issues?
If I said 50 million people were eaten by sharks each year and tried to convince my local town to ban swimming, don't you think it's important I get the number right?
The numbers presented in the original quote were basically off by 1000x. We're not talking nit-picking here. It's off by orders of magnitude.
rn = 2.5 years ago.
It's become even worse.
"3 trans?"
48 in poverty seems low
85 being illiterate seems high
Yeah we fucked up.
I have some really bad news for you about the literacy rate in the U.S.
21% is pretty fuckin high
Unfortunately this is accurate. Half of adults in the US are unable to read past a sixth grade level. 20% are functionally illiterate.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/us-literacy-rates-by-state
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It's unsurprising if you understand how horrible & scientifically uninformed popular reading pedagogy was until a few years ago. It probably explains the overreliance of meetings at work where written communication should suffice.
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Only one getting shot per day? Fuckin' rookie numbers!
E: extra word
That seems high even by US standards. After a year, basically everyone would be dead.
This is flippanarchy not maths-and-precision.
Apparently the rate is 125 killed by a gun and 200 shot and wounded per day. I don't know how that would extrapolate from the total population down to 400 people but you are correct that it is, in fact, much less than one.
https://everytownresearch.org/report/gun-violence-in-america/
325 out of 340 million is less than 1 in a million (per day). So in our 400 person room, (assuming I’m doing the math right) about 30-40 grams of human matter would get shot per day. Which is like, four (or more) eyeballs of weight.
I’d be extremely concerned if every single day, a random body part of someone in the room was destroyed.
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Of those 125 "killed by a gun", 91 of the "victims" pulled the trigger themselves. There's about 34 gun murders per day in the US.
If you're looking for a population where one person is murdered daily, you need to start with about 10,440,000 people.
The problem isn't that people are killing themselves. The problem is desperation. For far too many in our dystopian society, death is the brightest hope that some will ever see. The solution to gun suicide is unfucking this massive shitstained clusterfuck, not depriving the desperate of their 9mm retirement plans.
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One in 400 people is shot every day? Yeah I’m gonna call BS on this one.
Maybe it's just one guy getting shot so often it's not even newsworthy anymore.
Gunshot Gary keeps shooting himself in the leg to build up an immunity.
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The room is located in a school
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I wanted to look up the statistics for myself and see what the numbers are, given a room size scaled around 1 person dying from firearm related injury. I chose people dying from firearm injuries because I had a hard time finding a statistic for all people who were shot. If you are aware of better sources for my numbers (or a math error on my part), please let me know. I primarily used sources from the US government, but I recognize that those sources might not be completely transparent right now. Also, I don't mean for this to undermine the intention of the author here. Every issue mentioned is absolutely a problem in america, regardless of arbitrary comparisons. Also also, transgender people are valid and deserve rights regardless of how many people are shot per year.
Say you're in a room with 2,584,401 people. 206,752 don't have insurance. 273,947 live in poverty. 542,724 are illiterate. 596,996 suffer from mental illness. And every day at least 1 person dies from firearm related injury. But 21,192 are trans so you decided ruining their lives is a priority.
The population of the US was 341,140,964 on 12/31/24.
92% had health insurance in 2024.
10.6% lived in poverty in 2024.
79% were literate in 2013. (Hopefully there is a more recent source for this somewhere)
Is this really important? Feels like it's missing the point. When communicating information compromises between factuality and bandwidth must be made. OOP gets the point across and has emotional impact. Even I didnt read half what you write. Nobody ever checks sources.
Nobody ever checks sources.
I don't disagree, but it is a shame.
Right but being more technically correct does not make you a better communicator or more likely to be listened to. Creating approximately correct-ish ideas in the minds of your audience to counter absolute fictions is much more important unless youre in a lab or talking to an engineer about engineering.
Precision and rigor have negative rhetorical weight.
I appreciate the effort to improve the methodology. But the numbers feel too big to be grasped easily, compared to the original.
Maybe the time frame can be changed? If we bump it to "1 person will be shot to death this year" it would make it a room full of 7080 people and 58 are trans
Edit: full data set rescaled
7080 - total
566 - no insurance
750 - poverty
1487 - illiterate
1635 - mentally ill
1 - gun death per year
58 - trans
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In a population of 400 people, 1 person is shot every day? So, by the end of one year, the population is down to 35 people?
If we extrapolate to the US population, we end up with 900,000 people murdered per day, or about 330 million people per year. That doesn't seem quite right.
One person is shot, not one person is killed via shooting.
Fair enough. So, at the end of the first year, there are at least 365 bullet wounds among 400 people? Every year, 330 million Americans are treated for bullet holes?
The math suggests I should be surviving a gunshot wound every 16 months or so. That doesn't seem to match my life experience.
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Don't worry, the fascists will be going after those with mental health issues next.
It's already starting.
In other news, the Kirk Memorial was basically a Nuremberg rally.
Wheee yaah... this is not looking good.
EDIT:
I would describe this youtuber as an actual, genuine centrist, not a crypto nazi, got a lot of sensible ideas and some ignorant ones... I use him as a barometer for basically non brain poisoned normies who have a college degree and a functioning brain, but also come from a blue collar area and are ... more culturally traditional.
Basically, a guy who is kinda problematic if you do a deep dive, but you could probably have a beer with and be reasonably good to ok friends with.
And he is in horror, reviewing Miller's speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KSYjqB_Q-8
The... original intent of his channel was a travel channel, showing people how US life compares to working and living overseas.
EDIT 2:
Large Man here missed this, but I will point out that Miller saying 'We are the storm' is an obvious Q Anon reference.
Like I said, he's not internet brain poisoned enough to know.
The room has a >91.25% annual shooting rate?
I don't want to brag, but I've been living in the United States for 25 years and I haven't been shot once. If the room resets annually, my odds to this point were 3.55x10^-27. Am I the last American?
"And the pedantic mathmeticians shall inherit the earth."
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It's called scapgoating.
tbf, trans people are gross. Round them up and shoot them all for daring to live their life how they see fit, without harming anyone else. How dare they??
source: I'm a trans person.
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