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“I think the key to Democratic victories is to understand that you got to stand unequivocally with the working class of this country,” Sanders said. “You need an agenda that speaks to the needs of working people."
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I mean, he's correct in that both political parties have been bought and paid for by large corporations for a long time. This shouldn't be news, it should be plainly obvious by now.
One party is openly hostile towards the average citizen. The other puts on a friendly mask for the public but is also hostile towards the average citizen. None of them actually give a fuck about the average person. Trump is exceptionally arrogant and aggressive with his goals, but I promise he is far from the first person to have such goals or to exploit the government system for personal gain. He is the first to be so obvious about it, but it has been happening for decades, hidden under the guise of 'security' and other buzz words.
The news isn't that the Democratic party is bought and paid for by the oligarchy. The news is that Bernie has stopped playing nice with the DNC.
Thank you for that take; this is the important part. Now I'd like him to get mean, please.
Without organized labor parties to call for strikes or make demands we are really stuck waiting for somebody famous (and who we trust) to say what needs to be said, and organize what needs to be organized. And it needs to happen soon. In Bernie we could trust.
Well, duuuhhh. Is this a new or unique take?
Bernie Sanders whines about Democrats. But seriously, he has been in politics forever. What has actually done? I understand Bernie says the right things. But can we actually look at what a politician does before we support them? I love what Bernie says, and how he has recently rallied. But I need more before I can support a bashing of people who have actually done what they say.
Hes 100% right, she started the campaign great talking about progressive real issues, then when she started changing thats when she started losing support
No no no. She ran a perfect campaign.
I have it on good authority that she was stabbed in the back by far-left, transgender, pro-Putin antisemites.
Next time - and there will be a next time, it's her turn - she needs to be even more friendly with moderate Republicans and win back the Joe Rogan demographic. The Democrats need their own Jordan Peterson. They need their own Yeomni Park. They need their own Curtis Yarvin. They need their own X, The Everything App.
That is the only way to win the coveted American swing voter.
I hear it may be Gavin Newsom's turn. Just shoot me.
We choose the lesser evil. Now, look what happened when people don't act and give up.
This seems to be how the majority of Democrats in office are and they'll never see themselves as wrong... They just point at Trump and say he's what's wrong. And yeah they're not wrong about that but that doesn't make them right or good either. You get stuck running for a bad candidate or a downright evil candidate. And yeah I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden and Hilary too. Id vote for a literal log of shit on the floor before I voted for Trump, but that doesn't mean I liked the Democratic candidates or that I'm super happy with party. This country isn't set up to make third party candidates an option.. But no...I don't think the Democrats in office will every see themselves as a problem.
A third of your comment is a disclaimer that democrats arent exactly the same as Republicans. Sorry, you are well below the 69% threshold, and are now a secret Republican nazi Russian communist who loves trump with all your heart! /$
Is, "influenced by billionaires," a euphemism for, "she let her uber executive brother-in-law talk her into gutting any economic populism from her campaign in favor of tepid centrist policies that cost her the election and ushered in a new era of American fascism?"
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Bernie is pointing out one of the major flaws of the Democratic Party and he is way ahead of his time in regard to US politics. Can you imagine if the USA would look at itself like Norway.
An oil producing enthostate governed by a neoliberal plutocracy?
I think we already tried that under Bush, Obama, and Biden.
I mean, I voted for her, and would vote for her again any day if it meant voting against Trump, but he's not wrong.
She's not really unique in that aspect compared to any other mainstream Democrat vs any outsider or mainstream Republican, and that's probably ~90% of the DNC's problem when it comes to overcoming voter apathy.
Realistically, most people are not expecting Dems to refuse large donations, but accepting a donation should not mean that you then compromise your own values to accommodate 1% of voters on any issue. That's not how a democracy is supposed to work. That's just pay to play.
The Dems though paint this like it’s a “necessary evil” they just have to accept all these donations from the ultra wealthy because you can’t win any other way
So the position starts off cynically pragmatic, and cynical pragmatism makes for a shitty rallying cry.
But then it doesn’t even work. They sell out to get the big money donations and then lose.
Ineffective cynical pragmatism is an even worse rallying cry.
And any time you get a Sanders or a Mamdani that shows a different path to success they go “oh sure that worked for them but it wouldn’t work anywhere else, only our cynical pragmatism works everywhere as long as you ignore all these electoral defeats”
The Dems though paint this like it’s a “necessary evil” they just have to accept all these donations from the ultra wealthy because you can’t win any other way
So the position starts off cynically pragmatic, and cynical pragmatism makes for a shitty rallying cry.
But then it doesn’t even work. They sell out to get the big money donations and then lose.
Ineffective cynical pragmatism is an even worse rallying cry.
And any time you get a Sanders or a Mamdani that shows a different path to success they go “oh sure that worked for them but it wouldn’t work anywhere else, only our cynical pragmatism works everywhere as long as you ignore all these donations from electoral defeats”
The big money on both sides is invested in the same places.
The rest follows from that.
Its so stupid to me that we've now reached the point that politicians don't even pretend to be public servants anymore. They're just paypigs doing whatever the money wants. Used to be, a campaign donation got you a "hi how are ya" and maybe a thank you card after the election. They sent you money and it was nice of them because you needed it.
Now with kamala, she got the largest grassroots fundraising of any candidate in history and what does she do? Listen to a bunch of rich fucks who gave the maximum contribution. I bet they all voted for Trump too. She's either the most incompetent and gullible politician in american history or the dnc are fascist collaborators. The way she turned away from every popular idea she had makes it seem like she was told to lose. Im sure its been fucking great for her brother tho.
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