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“Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy. And, right now, we are dealing with, as I called him at my speech on the Ellipse, a tyrant,” she said, referencing her rally last year on the White House Ellipse in Washington. “We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up,”

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fucking hell did she really need to throw in the red scare bullshit?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So the headline is misleading at best but i still feel like the ambiguity raised by inserting a term like that was just piss poor form and just about par for the course on both journalism and the messaging clarity of the DNC.

[–] Part4@infosec.pub 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump.

It isn't that ambiguous.

Her calling a fascist capitalist a communist shows how she is not equipped to deal with America's problems though.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ma'am, with the greatest possible respect, Trump is as much a communist as the Nazis were socialists.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

He's redistributing wealth among the people, it's just you're not people

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Propaganda against socialism and communism still going strong in the usa

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Never went away, never will.

The country is founded on personal gain, it's the foundation that it was bloodily built on from the very beginning. It would undermine everything that our current beneficiaries of this legacy stand for to even remotely embrace socialism.

The idea was to pump "rugged individualism" until there were no communities left, and then everyone who managed to shave off the most cash can fuck off to other countries or their own yachts in the ocean.

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

Hell, half the KKK story on Jews is about stopping Communism

[–] FarrellPerks@feddit.uk 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How the hell is Trump a communist? What is she smoking damn.

The support for capitalism over all else is expected, neoliberals do little else, but this level of delusion? Worrying.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

He did nationalise 10% of Intel. Without paying for it, even, if I understand correctly.

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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Americans use the word communism as pejorative without having even slightest idea what it actually means. In this case she is speaking language that majority of Americans will understand

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Americans understand the word "dictator" even if you don't put "communist" in front of it. This was a choice that doesn't make any sense. It only annoys the minority of people who understand what words mean.

Whatever fingers you want to point regarding Harris' (and Democrats') relationship with voters to the left of them, this is simply antagonizing. Politicians will tell enormous lies to court the right, but won't tell the truth to court the left.

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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (3 children)

She still doesn't get it. Capitalism inevitably leads to fascism. It's a core feature.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism leads to corporate monopolies leads to fascism.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. I really don't get it. Everybody has played monopoly but it seems like nobody has learned the lessons of the game.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

No one ever finished playing monopoly. Everyone always quit in boredom and frustration before the end.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Unregulated capitalism CAN lead to fascism.

It doesn’t have to.

Just like communism all around the world has similarly basically always led to fascism and dictatorship, but it doesn’t have to.

Humans are always the problem. Plans don’t meet humans well.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 6 days ago

Just like communism all around the world has similarly basically always led to fascism and dictatorshipv

It hasn't "led" to anything; Marxist-Leninism is explicitly authoritarian. That said, it's not fascism, that is not what that word means.

Unregulated capitalism CAN lead to fascism.

We're on our second run of capitalism leading to fascism across the Western world in the exact same way along the exact same fault lines.

Plans don’t meet humans well.

An economic system isn't a plan; it's the context within which economic activity (including said plans) take place.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

These people don't even know what a communist is. They just have "red bad" drilled so far into their heads that it's right next to "woke" as a catch-all term for bad things.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 63 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (15 children)

Misleading, editorialized title. Any worthwhile journalist wouldn't quote somebody on words they didn't literally say.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 14 points 6 days ago

bad journalism for sure.. however, you can infer the meaning here. i don't think she'd separate 'tyrant' and 'communist' for distinction. still, hate how this shit passes as acceptable writing.

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[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Trump is exhibiting classic dictator behaviors. Dictatorships are not exclusively right or left. History is full of dictators who use "communism" or fascism as a base.

This is where people conflate and confuse things like the FL Cubans who didn't like Kamala because "she's a socialist/Communist and I came from a country with a bad leader like that!"

They can't distinguish a ruling style from the underlying governing structure.

A dictator is a dictator is a dictator.

And you can look at dictatorial regimes across the spectrum and it's the authoritarianism and the dictator that is the common thread.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Harris is certainly well educated enough to know that Trump is not a communist; presumably these dipshit comments are for right-wingers, because she's trying to appeal to them again.

Goddamned neoliberals

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

They literally exist just to kill leftism in the united states now. No other benefits offered

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

Well. That tells me all I need to hear. The DNC had decided to lose. Again.

Good luck. You're gonna need it.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy

Exactly what a neoliberal would say.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

hilarious to hear Americans use terms like Socialist, Communist, Fascist even at the levels of supposedly highly educated and clearly they have no idea what they are talking about.

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A fascist dictator, not a communist dictator.

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

She'll say anything but criticizing Israel. That's why she lost.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

"Trump bad, just as bad as communism, did I already say communism bad? Votes please"

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago

MAGA Communists continue to be vindicated

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago

Libs love losing and blue MAGA will eat all of this shit she's saying while advertising her crappy book up.

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