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[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

and if you read theory, it's just a detailed explanation of capitalism! Nobody actually has a concrete, actionable prescription of how to make "the good society", just a general sense that something better is possible if we start doing something with what we already have

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a pretty absurd thing to say. There's lots of theory that isn't descriptive of capitalism like Kapital is. Pretty much all of Lenin's main works except Imperialism deal with how socialist society should organize.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But then you’re listening to fucking Lenin.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, one of the proletariat's greatest heroes and one of history's most successful revolutionaries.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Any time you have to force or coerce a system onto a population against popular sentiment, it's doomed to fail.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is why capitalist shitholes of the west are now visibly coming apart at the seams.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. Capitalism was forced on the population, ergo it is doomed to fail.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

that's why we need to abolish private property in the means of productions

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm more in support of socialist revolution to attempt a smooth(er) transition, but eventually yes

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are zero historical examples of capitalists giving up their power without a fight. The history of the 20th century and the cold war is one of repressive counter-revolutions killing hundreds of millions of people in the global south who tried to build socialism.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're asking for the impossible bob

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know, I think they're just confused. Socialist revolution is the transition to the state of society in which private property has been abolished.