Preventing installing outside of their monopoly is the correct term, not side loading, that's just propaganda to make you feel bad for using your device freely.
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Yeah they’re built on top of open source anyways… yet they pretend projects like chrome or android would’ve never happened without them. They’re the ones freeloading off of open source and claiming it… and except for pixel they don’t build the devices we use, so fk them and their predatory practices…
We need to stop calling it side loading. Say it what is is android wants to stop people from installing apps
Google wants to monopolize installing programs on your phone.
There. That should make them cower in fear.
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Niche communities like this care. Normies don't care at all. That's where enshitification comes from, from the fact that companies don't get punished by the majority of their userbase even when they pull pretty extreme shit.
They care after the fact but they dont understand and are hostile to the idea of trying to.
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I think the problem I'd that they're sold on the idea if simple/easy being the highest version of technology, that frictionless and smoothe is better than empowering or secure.
Its the pitch that got them to pick up smart phones, after all. And that's what needs to change.
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iOS: the OG user shitter.
It was called Mac os first, child.
One of my favorite memories about Macs was in the school computer lab. I crashed the system by plugging in a USB with a word doc I needed on it. Nothing more than plugging a USB in and getting a stack trace. The lab monitor was adamant that I couldn't have crashed the mac because iT jUsT wOrKs and basically blue screened when he saw it.
Good times. Mainly because I haven't been forced to use it outside of labs.
When was this? In my school years, the lab Macs were garbage. But I’ve had much better experience with more recent Macs (though I’d prefer to not use them in general).
Mac OS is heavily Unix-based, it’s not a terrible operating system. But it is an awful user experience if you’re not used to it.
I've been having to use a modern Mac for the first time in a new job, and I think you summed up my experience with it perfectly. God I hate how "helpful" everything is about the user experience
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If we all want linux phones. we're all going to have to go through some initial pain of using linux phones while its still a bit rough. Its the only way out of the duopoly (short of legislation). We have to buy linux phones and makes apps.
For now we can even use waydroid for using some android apps
Stuff like this is why i daily-drive Linux for over a year now; windows 10 only exists in a VM for stuff that refuses to work (i use this VM about once or twice per month for an hour or so). Originally i just didn't want ads in my start menu, preventing a local user would have sped up the switch to instant instead of 2 weeks.
I haven't missed Windows at all. Don't even have a reason to set up a VM set up for it.
Yeah but users are dumb. This happens constantly. Microsoft starts with a switch so users can disable something unwanted, then they remove the switch.
The annoying part of actually the dumb users who defend bad behavior with "you can turn it off", keeping people on the software instead of making meaningful changes to Linux or something else.
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What alternative do we have for phones? Is Lineage os simple enough for the average user?
Always has been ;) E.g. my parents are rocking LOS+microg since forever, they have no idea what adb, fastboot, flashing, partitions, rom, root etc mean.
And if you get the right device it'll take you literally two minutes to install. But installing ANY operating system is just something the average Joe doesn't do today, so help people out or get yourself some help the first time. Same with Linux on desktops.
Followup question: what alternative do people with locked bootloaders who don't want to get a new phone have?
I just bought a phone earlier this year before I heard the news, and I planned on keeping it for the next four years, given that it's a brand new, high-end flagship device. I don't plan to sell. I don't want to sell. It's the best phone I've ever had!
Not on my phone / computer!
I will literally just stop using a phone for anything but work. They suck anyway and have always been a shitty alternative to a computer and are constantly tracking us. We have been soft coerced into accepting this low quality alternatives.
I will use my computer with intention and have already started considering leaving my phone at home entirely when I leave.
Literally bought a new phone just so I could have a work phone with standard Android and my phone, with Google ripped out at the root level. (Also ripped out the dedicated ai button software)
At this point I just want a tiny palmtop Linux computer like one of those GPDs, or what the Open Pandora / Fira? was supposed to be, so I can do actual tiny computer things.
And just keep a "smartphone" to blend in with normies and survive in society at a basic level.
I'm so sick and tired of having to hunt down some super specific (but hopefully popular enough for developers) SoC phone hardware that's probably only sold in Europe anyway, so I can put a decent OS on it, which requires a whole weekend of steps because the hardware manufacturer doesn't want you to, and it's all good and dandy
"Except the camera doesn't work and Bluetooth will randomly die."
...Just to sidestep the ever present corpo-government panopticon trying to 24/7 beam the ad-verse directly into your brain.
My first iPhone 3GS was so exciting at first, so was my first Android I could put Cyanogen on. Now I hate these stupid manifest-landfill bricks because they're so adversarial to human well being.
I just wish it didn't require some absolute miracle of moved mountains to get some hardware that belongs to whomever buys it, instead of being black-boxed and booby-trapped to shit "Because screw you, that's why." Because The Market(TM) became about indebting and mining, instead of just selling a thing.
Agh! Sorry for the rant.
(Sent from my Motorola Stylus because they'll at least unlock the boot loader if you ask nicely and I can use my SD card and drawing on it is neat.)
I have the GPD microPC. I've run Fedora and Arch on it both with great success. It supports s3 deep sleep mode so the battery lasts days with light use.
My only complaint is that the keyboard and mouse buttons are terrible. Ive also never been able to get it to fast charge (which it claims to support).
I tried their slightly larger models as well. A little too big for holding like a tablet and typing.
I heard the microPC 2 is out now.
Enshittification is a feature of capitalism, not a bug.
Has Microsoft started locking local user accounts?
I mean, actually locking them, not just preventing them from being created.
Preventing their creation on newly installed computers. No workaround as of now.
Oh good, another reason to install Linux on my next reinstall
It might be a stupid reason, I always used a local account even when connecting a Microsoft account later, since I absolutely hate how Windows names the user folder for MS accounts...
If it's a PC, just grab another drive and install Linux now. Swear to god, you'll naturally and very quickly just not boot to Windows again. It's like...
Day 1: Install Ubuntu. Drive around, do stuff, learn.
Day 3: Install a different distro like Mint or whatever. Drive it around.
Day 5: Install the one you ended up liking most. All these installs take like 10 mins top btw, so go nuts.
Day 10: You havent used Windows except maybe for your work's 365 stuff. All you games, programs, etc. are on Linux now.
Day 14: Wipe the drive Windows is on and reinstall it on a shrunk partition. Only install your stuff for work or just leave it default.
And that's it. Yourself free, but it's still there if ever have to use it for something. You'll groan when you do though. And if you do WFH with work 365 stuff, the best part of the day is logging off and booting back into Linux. It's like the relief of coming home from work but you've been home all day.
I already have a laptop that has Arch running for a Year and I haven't regretted that a bit.
Im just to lazy to make some space for Linux on my desktop that's already dying and just waiting until I have replaced the Motherboard and CPU.
Especially since I will need to Dualboot for some programs and Windows really likes to kill my bootloader unless it has its own drive with its own EFI partition
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No workaround?
That is incorrect.
There are plenty of workarounds, here are a two:
- Use an older installer, create a local account and update.
- Install Windows 10 with a local account and upgrade.
I am all for bashing Windows, but please argue facts, not imaginations.
You can also download a Windows 11 ISO and instead of using the official Microsoft tool, use Rufus to create a bootable USB stick. You can specify a local account to create in the tool.
Pointing out to this comment that suggest another option to bypass the account :
https://reddthat.com/comment/22001680
To be clear, I agree we shouldn't have to go through so many hoops to just not have an account on a local OS... At the same time I agree spreading misinformation on the subject is not good either...
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Sorry OOTL on this. Does that mean auth won’t be local, that users won’t be able to work offline?
No, that just means that an installation with a Microsoft account will track you with it.
But I'm nor saying you won't get any tracking with a local account either. In any case there is "telemetry".
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I finally stopped dual booting Windows after I got the "You can't log into this account due to repeated log in attempts or restarts, wait 2 hours" BS I ran into a few days ago. Sadly there is one game I can't get working on Linux or a virtual machine, and one laptop feature that will not work until the maintainer of my device's Linux drivers manages to get it working for my specific model, but being forced out of my own system and told I'm not allowed to access it for 2 hours is intolerable, and the fact its baked into the OS, and can't be disabled, even more so.
Holy shit, is this a real thing now? You're not allowed to restart your machine too much?
Thank the gods I ditched my dualboot setup months ago, I would have ran into this same issue.
Two companies where the customer relationship can be described as abusive.
You know. I know it. It's your choice to stay or leave.
Sick of the bullshit excuse of "all companies will abuse me" mantra.
Abusers need you to believe that.
It's a tiring conversation that you do for attention. Let me know when you actually want help escaping. Until then leave me about of your victim performance.
Everyone: I MUST HAVE A LOCAL ACCOUNT ON MICROSOFT WINDOWS
Also everyone: uses iPhone with mandatory crApple account
Apple - "Amateurs, we've been doing it since the beginning and no one has a problem with it."
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