The report was issued in 1983, Stalin died in 1953. The Ukrainian famine was around 1933. I suspect whoever made the meme is fully aware of these facts.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Here on .ml we prefer alternate facts.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago

Surely the CIA wouldn't lie about Russia either, that'd be crazy.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I assume that the whole "Stalin starved his people" thing isn't talking about the average conditions of the Soviet Union during more "normal" times, but rather specific events of mass starvation like the Holodomor. That being said, famine caused by accidental or malicious management of agriculture is something hardly unique to any single economic system (I imagine a comparison could be made to the Irish potato famine there, for an example of a similar type of disaster under a different economic system), so I'm not sure if it reflects entirely on the kind of system the Soviets were going for as much as it does mistakes in the process of transitioning to that system, and malfeasance on the part of those in charge in pushing the consequences of those mistakes upon disfavored groups.

[–] sonori@beehaw.org -1 points 11 months ago

Personally I tend to think that the Bengal famine is better compared to the Holodomor, as it is closer in time, area, and effect. If there is a lesson to these things though, I think it’s that it doesn’t matter what economic system you use of the people in charge are fans of eugenics, and that’s why it’s so important that there be strong independent checks on the government and politicians, minority representation, multi-party rule, etc…

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 11 months ago

Damn so I guess those 3.5 to 7 million Ukrainian just "lost the will to live"... You know, like Padmé

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

This is not a good meme. No one is reading a wall of text.

[–] shiftymccool@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

"Wall of text"!?!? You fucking kids and your fucking video culture

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -1 points 11 months ago

If you actually read the wall of text, it explains that US citizens got more meat, sugar and fats than soviet citizens, who had to make do with grain in place of the higher value foods enjoyed by capitalist wage slaves.