An interesting choice regarding population control.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure by Make America Healthy Again they mean let all the sick, disabled, and weakened die off from lack of support.
Absolutely.
Gotta crop off the old timers.
How do you categorize a Nazi that is fine with all types of people that give him money?
Who are you talking about?
Some pig.
Well, orange turd is getting rid of migrants, but as we know, many Americans are not white. So the guy is trying to end the covid vaccine to remove old and weak people which is not a racist move.
Pig is OK I guess.
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Agree. Let Darwin win! I’ll go back to wearing a mask.
It's only a matter of time until mask wearers get shot on sight because of "domestic terrorism".
I swear, it's not for health! I'm just kidnapping Mexicans!
Unironically, that answer would land you a job on ICE or even in the administration.
Just wear a kkk mask over it and you'll be fine!
You might be onto something.
Yes, but the other masks
That too. And masked cops shooting other masked cops.
I'm pretty sure they're working on making that illegal, too.
Unless you are wearing a full bunny suit, there are still plenty of membranes and fun bits that viruses can get into. I still mask up when I go shopping or whatever, but I also acknowledge that I am fucked either way on a plane and so forth.
Masking is at its most effective when the people who are actually sick wear them. It blocks a large percentage of the greatest source of germs (mouth and nose) passively.
Also: As fun as it is to... use eugenics to tell the white supremacists off, it generally won't be the chuds who suffer the most. It will be the immunocompromised and those on various medications that otherwise wreak havoc with their bodies.
Iirc, glasses help reduce infections, too.
Back in 2020 I'd wear my p99 respirator and goggles at the grocery store, then a full strip into the washer and shower as soon as I came home.
Now I'm more relaxed: n95 or kn94 plus standard prescription glasses, washing hands up to the elbow (makes me feel like I'm on MASH). I still strip as soon as I get home, but not because of COVID.
I've gotten relaxed at work over the summer because there were minimal people in the library. I'm going to go back to full masking outside my office now that the students are back, especially since I don't have a new flu or COVID vaccine available to me.
Glasses help in the sense that they protect your eyes from direct splatter. They do not help once germs are aerosolized and being recirculated constantly.
But yeah, my basic model is more or less a kn95 (that I always should replace more often than I do) to cover my face in stores or whatever where I am not expected to be standing in a crowd for hours on end or sitting down to eat. I keep some with me on travel days but don't bother to wear it unless I myself feel sick because I am going to inevitably need to eat or drink something or I am in a metal box where all the air is being recirculated constantly.
But yeah... I at least know that I am most likely not susceptible to long COVID since I literally caught COVID when it was all kicking off back in 2020 and have gotten it again a few times at varying levels of vaccinated/boostered (last summer was definitely bad but nowhere near as bad as being patient 3 or 4 was). Still gonna mask up but I "know" I'll be fine and am weirdly more worried about the flu.
But... a lot of people are going to die.
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Can't have anything that helps people
Remember when the Republicans wanted the vaccine to be a choice?
Just to be clear, the person making this claim is Dr. Aseem Malhotra, the crazy guy who's gotten into the good graces of RFK Jr. "Crazy Guy who makes Crazy Claims makes another Crazy Claim that aligns with his previous Crazy Claims." For me, I'm sticking this bit of information on the corkboard, but I'm not going to freak out about it. Yet.
They might also be toying with the market.
I can't imagine the administration, who's primary concern is getting as much money as possible from as many sources as possible, would open themselves to lawsuits AND reduce a chance of fleecing/Intel'ing the pharmaceutical markets that produce highly profitable vaccines.
My bets are they're going to talk it up real big to scare everyone left of "backwoods gooner in a wooden shack" and raise a big narrative that they're doing all the weird shit Conservatives think they want, while trying to exercise a completely brain-damaged tactic against pharma companies to try to negotiate another fascist "cut" of their profits. Then they can quietly forget about it like nearly everything else they've promised to their completely ignorant, unthinking base.
All that said, I am going to have to suffer through a booster ASAP because these fucks are deranged and unpredictable. And if they DO go through with it and I lose anyone I care about to covid, I am going to the hardware store. And I am betting I will have friends.
There's also the money involved. The pharmaceutical corporations pretty much have things rigged so they make huge profit off of any drug to market. Even those that aren't really that effective. But when it comes to vaccines, that's a pretty much a guaranteed demand.
That's a lot of dough to grease some wheels, if they needed to; no way any kind of ban like this would actually go through. Not that that should surprise anyone, after all, considering how frequently these morons turn out to be all talk, no substance.
Don’t forget the insurance companies.
They’re doing the math, and they’d probably rather pay for a shot than expensive ICU stays.
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That's a lot of dough degrees some wheels, ...
Okay, that took me a minute to decode. To grease some wheels. Voice to text?
No, I'm just stupid. Obviously.
Just kidding, of course; I will fix.
im due for one and its enough that im going to go forward and see about getting one while I can. was waiting to get a job offer to have it close to the next point I might be in close contact with folks for long periods of times.
Didn't the traditional COVID vaccine have way more issues than the mRNA one?
The mRNA vaccine has a shockingly low rate of side effects or adverse reactions. Nearly all of the negatives were less severe versions of symptoms and impacts from COVID. So even if you were impacted by a negative side effect it was likely you were still better off vaccinated than not.
Banning it has nothing to do with the reality, and everythinf to do with their ignorant and dangerous beliefs.
Anecdotal, but I got jabbed 4 or 5 times with the mRNA vaccine and got COVID once.
The jabs usually meant that evening and next day I had a splitting headache, extremely uncomfortable lymph node under the armpit of the side I got the jab, and just general tiredness. But 24 hours later it was good and I was fine.
With COVID, I was bedridden for 3 Days. Fevers, splitting headache (worse than the jabs), diarrhea, even vomited once. Even when I got better enough to get out of bed, I had an uncontrollable dry cough that lasted for weeks.
So yes, the jabs weren’t fun, but they were predictable and ended quickly. The disease itself was much worse for me and had a tendency to linger.
Back when my friends were getting our first COVID jabs, we'd congratulate each other on "a strong immune response" whenever we'd feel crappy afterwards.
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Vaccine skepticism isn’t so much about vaccines per se, it’s following a small movement that grew organically and fanning the flames instead of letting it die in obscurity. The purpose here is using it as a vehicle for promoting skepticism of tried and true science.
What’s the greatest enemy of authority? Tried and true facts with no room for dispute. By effectively undermining vaccines, the way is paved to continue to sow doubt and skepticism for other science, making it easier to dispute facts that can and will undermine authority without thus skepticism.
Yes, the added benefit is population control and distraction. If people are sicker and more financially blown up by medical bills they’re far too busy and demoralized to engage in revolution. And there’s less of them due to death. Brain fog from long COVID is beneficial as well.
In addition, they can pocket the funding that would otherwise go to vaccine programs.
It’s perfect, from an authoritarian viewpoint.
If people are sicker and more financially blown up by medical bills they’re far too busy and demoralized to engage in revolution
The people I would fear the most would be those with nothing to lose.
Which is most of the population at this point. I think this will probably end up being a reminder of the old saying, "Don't count your chickens before they hatch."
That’s a fair point, but how many terminal cancer patients have you seen make headlines for Luigi style acts?
One of the more interesting points of that odd but good Stewart podcast in which he, a historian who studies revolutions, and the writer of Andor discussed re revolutions is how often things don’t happen even when all the formulaic boxes are checked. There is a list, a recipe, for revolution, but even when all the ingredients are there; it often fizzles.
Same thing regarding what you’re saying, I think.
100%.
It also is one of the conspiracy theories that cross party lines.
The youtuber/failed mythbuster Allen Pan did a video where he made a "vaccine gun" that turned into him being terrified of angering his black camera woman and it turning into a heartfelt video where they both go to "the rich white people CVS" to get their vaccines.
And ignoring that he is a piece of shit with borderline minstrel tendencies, it also kind of summed up a lot of what we saw in 2020/2021. We have a fucking miracle cure that can fix society! A bunch of idiots refuse to get vaccinated. So people decide to clown on them.
Oh shit! We are all racist assholes and the real villains because of the Tuskegee Experiment over 50 years ago! Okay, SOME people have very valid reasons for not getting vaccinated but only them. Fuck, Willowbrook back in the 60s? And Guatemala in the 40s?
Okay... people are allowed to not want to get vaccinated, I guess? And fuck anyone who is immunocompromised or otherwise at risk because they are also racists for caring about living?
And it also "helps" that it plays into the focused effort to vilify academics that we have seen, fairly globally, since the mid-late 20th century.
And, don't get me wrong, absolutely nobody deserves to be in an unethical human experimentation. But... if people actually research the history of medicine they would never want to let any doctor even look at them. Except... that isn't the case. Because, yeah, some REAL fucking evil happened and so has a lot of gross incompetence. Medicine learns from that and actually has philosophical discussions so that even borderline stuff never happens again.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
When Taco said "I am your retribution", he was talking both about all his personal vendettas against a lot of the world, but he was also talking about the crazies and all their issues with reality, including properly addressing Covid, meaning lockdowns, social distancing and vaccines.
The unhinged crazies want to drag everyone else down with them.
God damn it. If only Genocide Joe had earned our votes and Kamala had smiled a bit less. Remember everybody, nobody vote Democrat until they finally run Bernie in 2028!
Fucking hell.
I'm convinced the right is going to try to mark the next year as 1, so 2028 will never happen.
Are they moving this project forward at Warp Speed by any chance?
They are. They found zero useful resistance, so there is no point in slow walking it anymore.
I heard repeatedly "you should have the freedom to choose to be vaccinated or not". Are those people going to just as vigorously argue against banning it?
Glad I got my yearly last month. Guess next year I'll have to go to Mexico?
It was essential and without alternative when it was new, and it's stupid to ban it, as it's still a great choice now, but for most people, non-mRNA alternatives are about as good.
A stupid move, yet possibly with few consequences. I got 2 % of my "fortune" in Moderna stocks though, lol.
Far worse is EU and its member states, which just delayed the release of the new adapted one just enough that everybody can meet in class for 3 weeks after returning from summer vacation before getting it. Although it was ready for shipping a long, long time ago. More madness than the US, for once.