Carrolade

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Personal preference is fine too. For many people, though, they will require a personal benefit. They won't just enjoy it. Especially if they see other people who aren't good and are doing better than them.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

This is a real problem we're facing.

It's part of the overarching authoritarian worldview, that fear of consequences from someone above you on the food chain is the primary motivation for anyone to be "good".

The problem comes from it being extremely time consuming to explain how "being good" benefits you personally, even if all possibility of consequences are removed. Essentially you have to explain the entire concept of the word "honor" to them. What are the benefits of being honorable, and how do these benefits (for you personally) outweigh the benefits of being dishonorable?

But if someone wasn't raised that way, then it really does need to be explained to them. Otherwise it's unrealistic to expect them to just somehow figure it out for themselves.

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edit2: To elaborate a little bit, the benefit of honor boils down to efficiency and the advantages of cooperation. People can perceive patterns, and when someone is dishonorable, even if people won't come attack them somehow, they'll still be reluctant to ever cooperate with that person. An honorable person thus has far more resources from their community that they can draw on in the pursuit of their own personal goals. In addition, it simplifies their lives. Instead of having to, say, track the lies you've told so you don't mess up and create inconsistencies, if you live honorably you free up all that energy to devote to your goals in other ways.

Note, my summary argument is not overly compelling just on its own. I had to boil it down too much to make it a reasonable length. You need many examples, or preferably actual life experience on how it works, for the argument to actually become somewhat convincing.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Oooh I didn't think of that.Yeah, those oceans are gonna be back in just a sec. lol

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Yeah, I suppose all the water everywhere just be hydrogen. I wonder if this would make us all explode, since H2 is gaseous at room temp. Also get a little heat as it goes from atomic to molecular hydrogen.

I suppose it depends on what happens to the lipids that form our cell membranes, whether we explode or just kinda dissolve and fall apart. I'm thinking dissolve now, kinda like a Thanos snap, just leaving behind something like soot.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

... nobody here is actually falling for the top pic, right...?

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find it useful to remember that entertainment products are designed to be both understandable and fun, where real life was not designed to be understandable and fun.

With that in mind, no, I would not.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When the Generative Agents system was evaluated for how “believably human” the agents acted, researchers found the AI versions scored higher than actual human actors.

That's a neat finding. I feel like there's a lot to unpack there around how our expectations are formed.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Harris should strongly put her foot down on this. No dem organization should be employing pre-checked recurring donation boxes. If that's what it takes to win, then we don't deserve to win. Let the US turn into a militaristic Christian dictatorship before we cheat our own.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Little bit of A, little bit of B. We shouldn't think that just because we are fighting for peace and equality that we cannot be infiltrated and manipulated to someone else's advantage. They're not mutually exclusive possibilities.

If there would be a clear benefit for doing so, and it can be done in a cost effective manner, then it is reasonable to think it might be happening. When you consider the strong motive provided by being involved in an active war with hundreds of thousands of casualties and many billions being spent, it's just not something we can afford to ignore.