Objection

In what universe are any of these people going to be held accountable??

The safest route for sure is to just follow the pack and not stand out. Unless you think that the average Republican has a serious risk of ending up in prison, in which case you're more delusional than she is.

I'm old enough to remember when people (including my young and naive self) thought that the Bush administration would be held accountable for illegal torture and spying and all that. Democrats got a supermajority and didn't touch them, and even continued a lot of the shit they'd been doing. The rule of law simply doesn't apply to you if the only people who could enforce it against you are these soft, civility-obsessed careerists. It's pure cope to think otherwise.

I'm genuinely curious if you really believe that they were never arguing that Trump was a Maoist, as they're now suggesting. Like when you read where they said:

I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?

They may sell it to you in a different package but the contents are essentially the same and I’d argue the result would be largely the same.

So in practice they aren’t functionally different

Have I actually "misread" or "misinterpreted" that? What other interpretation exists?

They're just playing games and acting coy because they know they can't actually defend what they said. It's clear bad faith, and I tend to react with hostility towards that. They're just good enough at operating in bad faith to muddy the waters.

Live in ignorance then. Bye.

I'm always impressed by the level of effort people will put into mental and rhetorical gymnastics to avoid admitting they don't know what the fuck they're talking about rather than putting half that effort into actually studying the thing they're talking about.

You wouldn't have to play these games if you just read a fucking book.

good friends with Lenin as Trotsky was

Tell me you've never read Lenin without telling me

Trotsky arrived, and this scoundrel at once ganged up with the Right wing [...]

What a swine this Trotsky is: Left phrases, and a bloc with the Right.

This is an instance of high-flown phraseology with which Trotsky always justifies opportunism... The phrase-bandying Trotsky has completely lost his bearings on a simple issue.

Trotsky has never yet held a firm opinion on any important question of Marxism. He always contrives to worm his way into the cracks of any given difference of opinion, and desert one side for the other.

Trotsky behaves like a despicable careerist and factionalist of the Ryazanov-and-co type. Either equality on the editorial board, subordination to the central committee and no one’s transfer to Paris except Trotsky’s (the scoundrel, he wants to ‘fix up’ the whole rascally crew of ‘Pravda’ at our expense!) – or a break with this swindler and an exposure of him in the CO. He pays lip-service to the Party and behaves worse than any other of the factionalists.

This is just a random sample, if you want more I can go on, for as long as you like.

Where does it say trump is a maoist you fuckin buffoon.

You said, "you haven't quoted me once." I have, in fact, quoted you, so that's blatantly false.

So when you said, “I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?” you weren’t implying that Trump is a Maoist?

Obviously, this whole time you've been arguing that position, and even when I directly asked this, you refused to answer. You're still refusing to answer.

You're just playing games, and I have no interest in it. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Don't spend this whole conversation arguing something and then say, "Well, I never actually said it outright" when you can't defend it just to save face. It's pathetic and dishonest.

People didn't want her position to be criticized during the race "because she's the lesser evil."

The exact same people also don't want her position to be criticized after the race "because she's not in power."

So when you said, “I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?”

You haven’t quoted me a single time genius.

Troll gonna troll.

So when you said, “I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?” you weren’t implying that Trump is a Maoist?

I literally already did, before you even asked. Apparently you don't have the reading comprehension and need to reread the thread.

Or rather, you can read and do know that you're wrong and are just trolling.

Point to one time I said turbo trump was a maoist you absolute buffoon.

100% trolling, gotcha.

I expected some amount of reading comprehension

And you haven't shown anything that I've actually failed to comprehend.

You still missed the key word ie. In practice.

That doesn't change anything. Unless Trump has redistributed land to the poor while I wasn't looking?

You’re either a troll or a legitimate fucking moron

Says the person who just claimed that Trump is a Maoist on the basis that Maoism is when you industrialize. I genuinely hope you're a troll because otherwise, Jesus Christ.

Forgive me for expecting an extremely basic level of political literacy.

No, all I have to ask is how in practice they are functioning differently.

How is a penguin different from Neptune? Clearly the assumption should be that they're the same until proven otherwise. This is how conversations work.