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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Every corporation should fear their workers

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago

Well yeah, sure, except they keep supporting him. So their concern means jack shit, quite obviously.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"Maoist"? lol

So, is Trump gonna order executions of landlords now?

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, I'm writing a thesis right now about actual Maoism, and like... Really? That's the phrase they chose?

Words used to fucking mean something!

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[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Media really trying to get that red scare stuff to get people to dislike Trump. You got this and then there's Harris calling Trump a commie.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

If they make them into communists then they can beat them and continue doing capitalism instead of admitting that conservative ideologies are all backwards nonsense that have never been proven to work outside of interactions made up by people who are consistently wrong about everything.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

The problem being that for many people (including my own ex, apparently, both to my and my kid's utter shock), authoritarianism and communism/socialism are synonyms. For those folks who got fed the propaganda and had no real reason or desire to question it, that's the characterization that works the best to communicate the threat.

For reference, an actual conversation:
"Man, Trump is going to make the U.S. a full-blown communist country"
[Me and Kid: Mouth agape, silence for about 5 seconds]: "I'm sorry, WHAT?"
"Yeah, you know, communist, like Russia was with Stalin".
"...do you not know what communism is?"
"Yes, it's when there's an authoritarian dictator."
"No, that's authoritarianism."
"Oh. I've never heard of that before."

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah we know a large amount of the population has a middle school level intelligence and an elementary school ability to read. Doesn't mean we got a cater to morons instead of publicly educating them.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

If smart people are so smart, why aren't they in charge?

Checkmate nerds!

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

True, but part of this is impact and speed. As an uneducated person, you can immediately grasp what's intended here and why it's bad. Takes longer, and probably time you guys in the U.S.* simply don't have, to better educate folks to come to the same ultimate conclusion in large enough numbers.

Your education systems are widely gutted, general level of political knowledge is poor, and you have folks speed running to old school authoritarianism with the support of a lot of dumb people - and those folks are very close to the finish line. You. Don't. Have. Time. I'm not saying I'm a fan but there's a practical component to this.

*Noted that this is an assumption and you may not live in the U.S.

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[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

If that happens he has my utmost support. I would buy 5 overpriced maga huts in a heartbeat

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I know one he could start with.

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm fucking tired of these insider anonymites wringing their hands and nothing changing, just shut the fuck up or be fully transparent with this. Take a meaningful stand and stop ass-covering so you can say I was against this the whole time when everything collapses.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

That's just it they publicly suck his dick and leak stuff about being against him so they cover their asses. So they can say I didn't support him. Couldn't these assholes say we are moving their headquarters out of America. But they won't cause America is the biggest market and line must go up.

[–] wheelsbot7@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 days ago

They're trying EVERYTHING to avoid Nazi comparisons.

The professional slumlord is in no way Maoist, hes kinda the antithesis of it.

Also they did the meme . . . again

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If the top 25 CEOs came out and said "We are going on general strike until Trump is impeached"

This is probably 8 to 15 million American households.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

No, its 25 americans.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (46 children)

Ok I can see a comparison to the cultural revolution, especially with the attacks against academics. But the landlord president is most certainly not a maoist

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago

He's definitely not ideologically a maoist (partially because he has no ideology beyond power and narcissism), but personality wise he shares a tendency to reject expertise, believe he knows best, and cause disasters out of stubborn narcissistic stupidity.

Although his death count is still 1/50 of that of Mao.

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Source article:

https://fortune.com/2025/09/21/behind-closed-doors-ceos-say-trump-is-bad-for-business-and-its-time-to-make-america-into-america-again/

It's honestly a fascinating read. It's fundamentally a PR piece, but the details (especially if you read between the lines) provide some interesting insights about how American oligarchs want to be viewed.

Difficult to make any educated speculation without direct access to the event (this is a PR piece first and foremost), but I get the impression there is an attempt to hedge their bets and avoid a scenario (even if it is low probability at this point) where they will have to go down with the ship.

Nearly three-quarters of CEOs surveyed said they were confident that U.S. free-market capitalism can compete with China’s socialist market economy in the global AI contest, and they expressed a near-unanimous discontent as the Trump administration has veered away from the capitalist system.

This is a particularly funny quote. America is not a free market model and China does not have a socialist market economy. Both are state capitalist countries with China being more centralised via the CCP and America allowing a measure decentralisation for oligarchs.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I get the impression there is an attempt to hedge their bets and avoid a scenario (even if it is low probability at this point) where they will have to go down with the ship.

There is precedent for that. The industrialists of the Famous Country in the 1930s had the same qualms about the Famous Leader and his Famous Party. But they liked the promise to rein in the Socialists and trade unions.

Spoiler: it didn't end well for them

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

For the industrialists? It didnt end at all. They kept all their profits from the war and holocaust machinery and then went on their merry way to fund their next venture.

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[–] Endmaker@ani.social 37 points 5 days ago
[–] F_State@midwest.social 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Tycoons looked at a dude with a terrible business record who's first term in office was a dumpster fire, and was clearly suffering from dementia on top of not being very bright to begin with and said "Yes, we want more of that"

[–] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They know that Trump is an idiot. But they know they can take advantage of an idiot. It's working for them. It worked when Bush was in office. It worked when Reagan was in Office and the other Bush.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

I think that only applies to a couple of them like Peter Thiel and Musk. For others, it's been a neutral or negative experience and bound to get worse.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

They paid for it. Do they have buyers remorse already? It'd be a good thing if the resulting shitstorm consumes them all.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The solution is of course to suck his dick even harder.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

We allowed greed above all to be the fundamental basis of our economic system. Obviously, the most immoral of all criminals, sociopaths, and psychopaths prospered.

Now, most of our business and political leadership lack any virtues whatsoever. Everything and everyone can be sacrificed, as long as it's for profit.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 5 days ago

US "preacher":

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago

How are Western oligarchs so good at seeing something bad happen and concluding this is not us, this is what people from there do!

No its you. Learn to introspect..

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

What a bunch of greed oriented pussies! They got us into this mess and skulk away instead of helping to fix it.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Americans: Americanly do something american

Famed Yale Business Guru: What are we, a bunch of Chinamen?

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

They fed this thing...

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

CEO Whisperer sounds like the tagline of someone in !linkedinlunatics@sh.itjust.works

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

It's a real thing, CEOs can get really anxious in their stalls at night, sometimes they will panic and cause the other CEOs to start panicking too. Someone has to go rub their legs and brush them out to calm them or they can hurt themselves.

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