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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 31 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

From what I can tell... that is actually what most people WANT in their VPN. They don't care about privacy or anonymizing data. They just want to hide information from the LAN admin and/or appear to be in a different region for the purposes of content (used to be so they could watch European Netflix. Now it is so they can watch Colorado Pornhub...).

I dunno. I've been in far too many Internet Arguments (TM) with people over what they ACTUALLY think a VPN is. People watch ltt's ads and figure they just pay for a VPN and leave it on 24/7 and that will solve all their problems. When the reality is that they are actively ignoring their actual cookie and activity based footprints and it just means that Google et al have a note that says "John Doe of 123 Fake Street in Bumfuck Wisconsin connects via an endpoint in Denmark".

And while I wouldn't trust microsoft at all for... anything? Do y'all really think those black box companies paying youtubers to lie to you about what VPNs do aren't collecting your data?

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (9 children)

“I need a vpn”

Why?

“Privacy”

You trust SuperNeatVPN headquartered in $unregulatedCountry more than your own ISP? It’s all TLS now anyways.

“I run a VPN because Joe Rogan says I need to in order to be secure”

Man, do you know how much of a pain in the ass it is when people run VPNs on their BYOD or work device (hey I don’t manage it, I’m just the MSP), have an established history of popping up all around the world, and then eagerly click the phishing links?

[–] TheDarkQuark@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

And why would you trust your own ISP more than reputable VPNs?

Sure, this statement is very valid for (free) VPNs which are not reputable, and act as data mines instead of providing true privacy; but your statement reads very much like we do not need VPNs at all.

ISPs know what sites you are visiting and when, and they are ready to comply with the government. Also, we have acts like Online Safety Act (UK), which incentivizes more data collection. Combine that with age verification on every site, and you are basically giving away your browsing history.

I agree that a VPN alone is not going to protect you, and you need to authenticate less into websites, and clear your cookies after every browser session (basically good OpSec). However, I also think that reputable providers like Mullvad and Proton are a must.

[–] Encephalotrocity@feddit.online 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

ISPs know what sites you are visiting and when..

and your name. address, credit card number. You're 100% right, just wanted to make sure this isn't skipped over.

Librewolf is my goto browser + vpn + ublock. If they get through that it's my fault imo

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

And why would you trust your own ISP more than reputable VPNs?

  1. Define "reputable VPN"? There is little to no meaningful third party auditing and mostly all we have to go on is if they are on the record for having "cooperated with law enforcement"
  2. The point is you need to actually understand what you are trusting who with. You want to watch AEW for cheap? Cool, whatever. You want to masturbate to porn without providing your ID? Maybe think about who is more likely to get a call from what orgs. And if you are doing something truly sensitive? That is when you need to learn a WHOLE lot more about what privacy and personal security actually are.

The point is that people just say "linus rogan had a promo code and this solves all my problems".

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