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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

We are on the way. sex and relationship rates are massively declining for Gen Z.

I have four newphews 16-20. they have all dated. all but one of them has already sworn off dating because they think it's total bullshit and they thought it was miserable and no fun to have a girlfriend, for the very same reasons, I also am frustrated with dating and relationships in my 40s. It's insane. It took me 30+ years of dating to get fed up, they were fed up in 1-2 years.

And all of us agree the issue is women's expectations they get from social media. My 17 year old nephew broke up with his gf because he got her flowers and she complained they were not $200+ that he was a 'low effort' boyfriend and all her friends dog-piled in group chat and agreed. He's 17 and he makes 15 bikes an hour part time...

Like why would any sane person want to subject themselves to group harassment from multiple women for the 'sin' of not being able to buy her absurdly expensive flowers? In my situation, I take women out on $100-200 dinner takes and get told that I'm a 'loser' for not taking her out to a $1000 restaurant on our 3rd date. It's INSANE.

None of that happened 10 years ago. If I took a woman out to a $100 restaurant 10 years ago she was STOKED. Now the refrain on the news is 'men are not good enough for women and women are giving up'. Without acknowledging the changes in women's expectations for men due to their addiction to social media and constant consumption of 'lifestyle' influences.

All anyone blames is the manosphere... and how evil that is. But really it's both sexes that are swept up in these toxic sexist expectations that are making both of them miserable and lonely and unable to connect with other people.

[–] saejima@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess it's a blessing in disguise because now it will be easier to detect people who are not worth dating

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it's not. it means we all suffer because so many of us want to be in happy relationships but the toxic bullshit people believe is totally preventing that. My dates use to talk to me like a human being, now they lecture me because I'm a 'man'. They see me as guilty until prove otherwise, instead of just a fellow human being who they are trying to get to know.

and the other thing that baffles me is how petty and mean dating has become.

[–] saejima@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just explain them their use of fallacies is wrong and communication is key and then, maybe, they will reconsider their position. If they don't then you dodged a bullet especially in the long term

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