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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (14 children)

I heard online that it's illegal to be against Christianity in America, as well as it being illegal to be against fascism, or 'anti fascist' in the USA as you'll be labelled a domestic terrorist. I heard in America that the cops won't kill you if you are a white person walking at night but not if you are a black teenager. I heard in America that the government will allow your father to shoot you until you die if you disagree with him politically but ask to see his gun. I heard in America you will be killed by the government for being ~~homeless~~ poor and there's nothing anyone will do about it.

But America is where freedom is. If you live in any conditions freer than that, you are actually in a less free country than America because actually America is actually freer than any other country actually.

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

I understand the parallel, but all you said can be confirmed or denied by several sources I have access to. I don't have alternative sources for most of the claims about China. Could you provide them? When I read about these things, it seemed trustworthy.

Also, I'm not even american, chill. I am not chinese either, I don't have a horse in this race. Both can burn in nuclear winter as far as I care

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

There are some hardcore pro-china people on lemmy. I made a joke about disappearing someone for re-education (like what happened to Jack Ma, co-founder of Ali-baba) and people downvoted shit out of it and said my American media is lying, idk what I'm talking about, etc etc.

I'm not saying the American media is a beacon of journalistic integrity or anything but it's telling they won't even admit these things happen in China.

[–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

...You spread a conspiracy theory not even supported by mainstream US outlets and people reacted badly?!

Jack Ma was not 'disappeared.' He was, in fact, brought up on charges that were later dismissed due to his cooperation. This was public news. Because Jack Ma attempted to bribe members of the CPC in order to gain political support for his incredibly unpopular and stupid idea of lessening safety regulations to bring Chinese markets closer to the 'freedom' of the US market.

His political movement failed, his bribery attempts were exposed, and unfortunately, he was not punished for them beyond having to issue an apology. Honestly it's a shame China didn't actually punish him like your conspiracy theory suggests, given the amount of damage he attempted to do to the Chinese economy and integrity of the People's congress.

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