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[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Perplexity (an "AI search engine" company with 500 million in funding) can't bypass cloudflare's anti-bot checks. For each search Perplexity scrapes the top results and summarizes them for the user. Cloudflare intentionally blocks perplexity's scrapers because they ignore robots.txt and mimic real users to get around cloudflare's blocking features. Perplexity argues that their scraping is acceptable because it's user initiated.

Personally I think cloudflare is in the right here. The scraped sites get 0 revenue from Perplexity searches (unless the user decides to go through the sources section and click the links) and Perplexity's scraping is unnecessarily traffic intensive since they don't cache the scraped data.

[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

…and Perplexity's scraping is unnecessarily traffic intensive since they don't cache the scraped data.

That seems almost maliciously stupid. We need to train a new model. Hey, where’d the data go? Oh well, let’s just go scrape it all again. Wait, did we already scrape this site? No idea, let’s scrape it again just to be sure.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

First we complain that AI steals and trains on our data. Then we complain when it doesn't train. Cool.

[–] jballs@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

It's worth giving the article a read. It seems that they're not using the data for training, but for real-time results.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

They do it this way in case the data changed, similar to how a person would be viewing the current site. The training was for the basic understanding, the real time scraping is to account for changes.

It is also horribly inefficient and works like a small scale DDOS attack.