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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's rich given she is a veteran.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Every group has the capacity for self hatred. Plenty of veterans love Trump, for instance.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps it wasn't your intention, but you gave credence to that argument. Which bills show that she didn't support veterans?

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about her. It's just that being a veteran doesn't inherently mean support for other veterans.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why I said it probably was not intentional. Their claim did not list any specific bills, but saying veterans might hate their own still unintentionally gives credence to the original argument while not providing any evidence.

That's my issue, as far as I know there's no evidence for that claim. The latest thing she did was actually trying to reinstate veterans that were fired by DOGE, which was blocked by Republicans.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I can see that if people extrapolated meaning from my response that wasn't there. I admit that I probably could have used a better example of it, like Hispanics being Trump supporters.

But, the TLC's implication was that the accusations were false just because she's a veteran, and I was pointing out that the fact that being a member of a group isn't evidence that you're not against that group.

Pointing out inconsistencies in someone's refutation doesn't legitimize the argument they're refuting. It's just a call for them to form a stronger rebuttal.