Consider the PC government federally after Brian Mulroney left and Kim Campbell disappointed by saying everything was fine and there's no need to change. They went from being in power to being able to hold caucus meetings at a medium-sized booth at Denny's. And then the party was eventually wiped out completely and replaced.

Consider the NDP in British Columbia when they had their scandal of the tail end of the 20th century and we're reduced to two seats as I recall. Likewise the conservative party which was known as the social credit for absolutely bizarre reasons was wiped out after the Vanderzalm Scandals.

There is a willingness for Canadian voters on the right and the farther left to absolutely devastate if not completely destroy their political party if it is perceived that they have done something unethical. The conservatives most of all but the NDP as well

But there is no willingness on the part of the liberal sister they may knock their party out of power but they will never punish them even for severe corruption the way the conservatives and even the NDP will

[–] BassetHound@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I’d chalk this up to the LPC being flexible enough to position itself wherever it needs to be, while the Cons and NDP sit on the poles.

[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. So you're saying you think that the liberals know how to apply to their people better? I mean that doesn't really make sense to me. I think most people understand what corruption is and can identify it when they see it, I just don't think that the liberal supporters actually care and that gives the liberal party a lot more freedom to do things that would get the other two parties in trouble

[–] BassetHound@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m saying that the LPC can opportunistically change their tune because they occupy the middle space. The Cons and NDP have fairly fixed places on the ideological and political right and left which bind them.

[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But it has nothing to do with that. Policy is one thing but what we're talking about here is corruption. Conservative and NDP voters are less tolerant of their party being corrupt then liberals are. Liberals will accept a high level of corruption in their party

Case in point. Everybody lost their mind and screamed about how unfair it was including the liberals when Bev Oda bought a $14 glass of orange juice. But the liberals are insisting that it's perfectly fine at Carney spent a million dollars on airline food last year because he works hard and deserves to eat well. Just on airline food for himself he spent more money than a family of four would spend on groceries in 50 years while telling Canadians they're going to have to sacrifice.

And that's just fine with the liberals. But an expensive orange juice when it's not a liberal? She had to resign.

[–] yes_this_time@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I seem to recall more controversy than 14 dollar orange juice. 3 day account, spamming BS.

[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So if I say something you don't like I'm 'spamming' ? LOL How very intolerant!

But no, it was the $14 orange juice. It became a massive thing all on its own I was considered a sign that she was living it up at the taxpayers expense. But now those same people who screamed to the High Heavens about that aren't batting an eye at Carney's insane lavish food budget for airline food of all things

And that is pure hypocrisy whether I'm in here three days or 3,000

[–] yes_this_time@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Eh I saw bunch of comments with bullshit in them from someone that looks like they get all their info from the Toronto Sun's Facebook page.

Bev Oda altered documents, look up the 'not' thing its wild, it wasn't just the 16 dollar OJ, limousines, extra hotel rooms etc...

[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It was the orange juice. That's what the media focused on and everyone talked about. And her entire expense budget even accounting for inflation is a tiny tiny tiny fraction of what we see the liberals doing

You can play whatever mental gymnastics you like but at the end of the day it's still a massive amount of hypocrisy by people who don't care about the truth and only care about their tribe

[–] yes_this_time@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, There were a string of controversies, expenses, yes, but altering a document (in a rediculous fashion) to remove funding from a foreign aid agency was the largest, speculation was that the request came from Harper because the agency was promoting divesting from Isreal.

Yeah the OJ thing did also resonate with the public, maybe why you are thinking of it and forgetting everything else?

But actually, I don't think she was as bad the party surrounding her.

[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 hours ago

She didn't resign for anything else. She resigned because of the furor over a $14 glass of orange juice.

And once again you're basically trying to skirt the issue. No matter how you slice it or however you want to spin it there was a huge outcry over a $14 glass of orange juice mostly from the left. That same left that is now accepting a million dollars a year in airline food is being perfectly justified. That is just an absolute fact and cannot be disputed

So the issue here comes back to the same thing, hypocrisy. You suggest the party was bad but at the same time there were no major corruption scandals in the entire time that the conservatives were in power. Orange juice is not corruption. Even the Mike Duffy Scandal was an example of harper believing something corrupted happened and forcing somebody to make it right. If we had that kind of correction in politics canada would be a hell of a lot better off 😂

And you're here trying to suggest that somehow the conservatives were worse and that photo was really bad while excusing carney and his million dollar airline food bill and the scandals were already beginning to see from him, And dismissing Justin scandals

That is hypocrisy my friend.

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