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[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't like cloudflare but it's nice that they allow people to stop AI scrapping if they want to

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 23 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

CloudFlare has become an Internet protection racket and I'm not happy about it.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's been this from the very beginning. But they don't fit the definition of a protection racket as they're not the ones attacking you if you don't pay up. So they're more like a security company that has no competitors due to the needed investment to operate.

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Cloudflare are notorious for shielding cybercrime sites. You can't even complain about abuse of Cloudflare about them, they'll just forward on your abuse complaint to the likely dodgy host of the cybercrime site. They don't even have a channel to complain to them about network abuse of their DNS services.

So they certainly are an enabler of the cybercriminals they purport to protect people from.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Any internet service provider needs to be completely neutral. Not only in their actions, but also in their liability.
Same goes for other services like payment processors.
If companies that provide content-agnostic services are allowed to policy the content, that opens the door to really nasty stuff.

You can't chop everyone's arms to stop a few people from stealing.

If they think their services are being used in a reprehensible manner, what they need to do is alert the authorities, not act like vigilantes.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

If they acted differently, they'd probably be liable for illegal activity that they proxy for (this is for example relevant for the DMCA safe harbor).

Anyhow, when on their abuse page, I have an option for "Registrar", which is used for "DNS abuse", among others.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

they're good at protecting websites but damn, having a company being MITM feels so wrong

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The shit they know. Plus their support for non-JS users or For are pure shite

[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yeah, a few sites outright refuse to work because cloudflare just poops. EDIT: It was supposed to say "loops", but I'm keeping it.