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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Oh no! Here comes capitalism from a communist country. It's like we built infrastructure to exploit cheap labor for short term gains and it's backfiring! Who could have ever seen this coming?

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

China is just state influences capitalism, the workers don't own the means of production, but it turns out if you invest in your means of production you can easily beat those that don't.

[–] jf0314@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Except China has advantages in supply chain integration and way cheaper labor that's kept artificially low by it's government playing games with it's currency exchange rate.

Translation: our workers are paid better, our companies follow relatively strict environmental law (or used to) and our government hasn't helped spy on other countries' technology advancements and given it to private industry to beat the other guys.

That's a pretty steep advantage to China.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Your government hasn’t spied on other countries’ technological advancements?

The US government has:

  1. Hired actual nazis,
  2. Systematically attacked other nations to keep them out of the way of their private business,
  3. Attacked and kidnapped the president of Venezuela for oil companies,
  4. Mercilessly beaten down Cuba while many pharma leaders visit and take Cuban medical advancements back home,
  5. And absolutely participated in a huge number of heinous shit I’m not even aware of.

And better pay? I mean, yea, but c’mon. The US is a dystopian nightmare dressed up in juuust enough personal comforts to keep most people from doing anything, and with so much of the country below the poverty line I would hardly call that a win. On the topic of artifical impacts to the cost labour, the governments of the US allow for all kinds of labour and human rights violations which keep people struggling and always playing catch-up.

Environmetal law is a huge nothing. How many people have been poisoned by US chemical companies, like 3M and Dupont, with barely any consequences handed out? The US doesn’t give a fuck about the environment and it never truly has. US-based oil companies release all kinds of highly doctored and misleading reports to try to greenwash their shitty behaviour while laughing behind closed doors(and sometimes out in the open).

I’m not going to say that China is a Utopia, or even decent by many standards, but if you think the US has anything to be proud of you need to sit down and shut up. Fuck the US.