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That's how I feel about Nobody, the action movie with Bob Odenkirk. A 59 year old beating up a bus of young punks, such a power fantasy, but it's just so hard to believe.
Yeah but it's fun anyway, because Bob Odenkirk is awesome.
This, plus the brutality of the fight scenes were incredible
He also got his ass handed to him in that scene...
Skill + strength. It's not always about how hard you hit someone but where and how.
As the old boxers say, timing beats speed. Precision beats power.
I like the one in Secondhand Lions. Similar theme. Perhaps more believable.
Ohh, young Haley Joel Osment and Robert Duvall. I don't know how I missed this movie! As in, I didn't see it when it came out. Might be worth a watch later today.
It's a quite enjoyable watch!
So is pretty much every movie, mate. The point is to make it believable as you possibly can, without tipping over into farce. You can believe that an experienced fighter can beat an inexperienced one. Thats not an issue. The issue, for me anyway, usually comes when they take a hit. Thats usually when I start blowing big watery farts at the screen. See also small women beating up massive built dudes. Like The Woman King, seeing 50something Viola Davis taking haymakers from 25 year old heavy weight like they are nothing. Each punch enough to knock just about anyone on the planet out cold.
John Wick is another one. The gun play and stuff is fun, but as a tactical exercise, John Wick regularly gives up good cover for more sensational action shots that should have gotten him killed a million times over. The trick is making it fun. If you can do that, the audience forgives any bullshit. If you cant make it fun, the audience will nitpick it to fuck.
John Wick is always safe because offscreen enemies with guns have to run into frame and engage him at close range. It’s like videogames rules - like how the mobs form into concentric circles and attack you one at a time from the inner ring.
Yeah I feel like movies in general wayyyyy downplay how bad taking a full force bare-knuckle punch right to the chin is. Irl you're very likely getting knocked out and also whoever threw the punch has a good chance of breaking their hand.