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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Indeed, the history of organizing in the belly of the empire is one where we have been murdered, de-fanged, infiltrated, crushed, absorbed, mis-directed, digested, and more. For statesians, myself included, trying to slay the monster from in the belly is both the most effective and most dangerous position to be in. That's why passivity is so common, simply hoping and praying China will save us all and letting everyone else carry the torch of humanity forward. However, how self-centered can one be? To live idly in the belly of empire, often being bribed by the spoils of imperialism, absolving ourselves of any responsibility? Of any struggle?

It isn't easy, but it isn't impossible either, it's merely difficult. And because it's merely difficult, we are responsible for carrying out our historic duty, for the sake of the international proletariat and an end to the era of imperialism.

This isn't directed at you, by the way, I just used your comment more as a springboard to attack leftist inaction.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This was the kick in the ass i needed to get over my self-doubt and put in my PSL application

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago

Fuck yea! I just started dipping my toes into organizing myself, haha. Needed to get over my social anxiety.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't directed at you, by the way, I just used your comment more as a springboard to attack leftist inaction.

Totally understood, and happy to provide a springboard!

simply hoping and praying China will save us all and letting everyone else carry the torch of humanity forward

This is an interesting point. I agree that that we in a the US arent off the hook so to speak, and should organize, etc, exactly as you said. But to springboard off you for mement, i think its important for USian leftists to understand that the US is not the main character of the world. I don't think that their will be a revolution in the US that leads the world to communism. I think the rest of the world will be leading us.

That doesn't mean we should be passive, there's still an important role to be played in the US and imperialist West - and as conditions worsen revolutionary potential increases. Its impossible to predict when something will be able to happen here so being organized is important. I just mean that socialism is an international project, and sometimes, particularly the "Western leftists," talk like the West will bring about the "true" socialism and lead the revolution.

I've been thinking about this for a while, but haven't put it in words yet so I hope that makes sense lol. And of course this isn't an arguement for passivity, and I'm not diresring this at you or youre above comment.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You're absolutely correct, and the problem you describe with self-important chauvanistic "leftist" statesians is why the MAGA communist and PatSoc movements exist, ie the ACP. The danger of chauvanism from leftists in the US is ever-present, we will not be leaders, we are to do our duty as revolutionaries in the world's most evil empire by bringing the nightmare to an end. Only then can we begin to be a part of a struggle for building a better world, a struggle already begun by billions of comrades around the world.

The way I see it, the monster has been brought to its knees through heightening of contradictions and protracted struggle against AES. We can either take advantage of the situation, leaping to slit the throat of the monster, and begin cooperative development along internationalist lines, or we can be crushed under its own weight with some small comfort knowing that the rest of the world will move on without us to a better world. In other words, its socialism or barbarism.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago