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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're all still american citizens (for now) so I'd say it counts.

[–] grindemup@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Honestly how much does that mean when they lack representatives / are unable to vote, and do not get full protection of US constitution (as per Wikipedia)? Sounds like citizens in name only..

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Doesn’t your logic also throw out anyone living in Washington, D.C.?

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

Yes, and that's also a significant problem and should be illegal.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Taxation without representation is a very american thing.

[–] grindemup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I mean, is it though? Seems like there are a whole lot of such countries.. at the very least, every country which isn't some sort of democracy.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is. But enough of them still think that going full statehood brings other evils and they're content with the sublevel of protection they have. And that is their right, we shouldn't force it on anyone who doesn't want it.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Didn't their last vote on it get 57% for statehood? I think it just wasn't approved by Congress

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_statehood_movement

Some of the votes were problematic because of boycotts, turnouts, and how the ballots were phrased or what they offered to vote on. I don't know what would be best for them, but that's also why I only think the offer should always be on the table and let them decide.

A big part of the issue that is also affecting other states is mentioned in that article, the capping of the House numbers. We do not have proper representation in numbers that can handle the population (and that doesn't even get into gerrymandering).

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Some of the votes were problematic because of boycotts, turnouts, and how the ballots were phrased or what they offered to vote on. I don't know what would be best for them, but that's also why I only think the offer should always be on the table and let them decide.

meh, you can use the same excuses every time they have an election to avoid doing anything.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Words cannot express how much I hate the cap on House reps XD