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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 53 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (11 children)

Every gun you see is always loaded.

This is clearly a lie, but is a useful lie that if you live by will make yourself as well as others safer around guns.

[–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 30 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

Better way to word it is: "Treat every gun as if it is loaded"

[–] natecox@programming.dev 11 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

Disagree. Every firearm I’ve ever handled has been loaded.

Sure, sometimes I’m wrong, but even a hint of “well it might not be loaded” seems like a dangerous slippery slope.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There is a fallacy named after this.

If you treat loaded and unloaded guns with the same safety, you don't have to lie.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is it the fallacy fallacy?

“I should treat this safely” is not “there is a bullet in this I’d better not fuck around”. Framing matters.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The slippery slope fallacy. Just because you just checked and know that the gun is unloaded doesn't inextricably lead to danger if you always treat a gun as if it were loaded.

You don't have to lie to yourself or others that the gun is loaded if it is not, just always treat it as if it is.

The only thing you do by lying is give people reason not to trust you.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago

I know the fallacy fallacy. It doesn't apply in this case because you really were making a slippery slope argument with no evidence, and despite my counterarguments. But I don't have more time to spend on ashitpost lol

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