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[–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 31 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Better way to word it is: "Treat every gun as if it is loaded"

[–] X@piefed.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Followed with:

  1. Never aim your weapon at anything you do not intend to destroy.

  2. Keep your trigger finger straight and along the receiver until you intend to fire your weapon.

  3. Keep your weapon on safe until ready to fire.

  4. Be aware of your target, your surroundings, and what lies beyond your target.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Disagree. Every firearm I’ve ever handled has been loaded.

Sure, sometimes I’m wrong, but even a hint of “well it might not be loaded” seems like a dangerous slippery slope.

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's no use reasoning with people who would rather be correct than be safe.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There is a fallacy named after this.

If you treat loaded and unloaded guns with the same safety, you don't have to lie.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is it the fallacy fallacy?

“I should treat this safely” is not “there is a bullet in this I’d better not fuck around”. Framing matters.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

The slippery slope fallacy. Just because you just checked and know that the gun is unloaded doesn't inextricably lead to danger if you always treat a gun as if it were loaded.

You don't have to lie to yourself or others that the gun is loaded if it is not, just always treat it as if it is.

The only thing you do by lying is give people reason not to trust you.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 hours ago

I know the fallacy fallacy. It doesn't apply in this case because you really were making a slippery slope argument with no evidence, and despite my counterarguments. But I don't have more time to spend on ashitpost lol