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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Too many people like this have ruined the field.

If we hadn’t made this all 100% about the money the entire world would be running on the best possible software.

An example I’ll give is ghostty, where 1 guy who got rich enough to cash out gets to spend his time making insanely good software, using a somewhat risky pre 1.0 language that would never get approved by corporate/investors, just because he wants to and enjoys it. And he openly chastises people telling him to enshittify or turn it into a business, because he doesn’t need to.

The entire Web 2.0 was built on the exact same thing with pylons, Django, rails, flask, etc. being born out of people who just wanted to code.

If I had 5-10x more wealth so that I never had to worry about money, this is what I’d be doing too.

Actually, what I’d be doing is attending university classes every day and writing software and doing analysis on the side.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I know. That’s why I work too.

I still think this field has been wrecked with greed and enshittification.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think that should be directed towards the top, not people working for a living.

[–] entwine@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

I don't know you, but I'll give you an example of someone I do know

  • Didn't give a crap about computers throughout highschool. Didn't really know what he wanted to do in general

  • Picks computer science last minute because it supposedly makes a lot of money

  • Cruised through shitty community college doing the bare minimum, no side projects or any sign he's even interested

  • At graduation time, he barely knows how to code. Has a github profile with some homework assignments he was forced to do

  • Is part of the job market now, competing against you and me.

I don't know if he's employed as a software engineer right now, but I've worked with people who obviously fit the same profile. People who expect real work to be as simple as submitting a homework assignment last minute using shit you copy pasted from SO (or I guess ChatGPT now), and then fucking off to enjoy life while your coworkers are burdened by your incompetence.

This is a field where actually giving a shit is a requirement.

[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago

Devs who are devs for no other reason than money and who don’t give a shit about the quality of their work are a problem.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

ghostty is recently a nonprofit, I didn’t know the creator’s backstory! https://linuxiac.com/ghostty-terminal-emulator-transitions-to-non-profit-status/