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Anyone else experience this?

You run into a niche or weird issue. So you google "how to x", "y not working on z" or "Error code: 123"; The 1st, 2nd, 3rd page are infected, probably 90% AI slop. Don't have any luck even with the one blog post that was probably written by a human.

Now I have to go to YouTube. Look for a tutorial, 1st, 2nd, 3rd video all AI. AI voice, AI avatar, bot comments like "😍😍😍".

Finally I reach a real video from a year or two ago that actually solved my issue. Took 4 hours when normally I could find it in 1 hour tops.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You might want to have a look at Kagi. It's a search engine that doesn't have ads and actually crowd sources stats about sites being riddled with AI slop. The search is crazy-fast and the results regularly better than I've had with Google and DuckDuckGo.

The catch: you pay for it. It's not much, but in my experience it's worth it.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago

Fuck AI as the community:

Try this AI search tool, it's paid for though so it sucks less

[–] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Is Kagi Assistant very distinct from the search?

I've heard generally good things about Kagi. But all of their plans include AI and that's something of a red flag

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

So I was dubious about this as well, but it turns out, it's actually rather well thought-out.

Each plan comes with AI support, but you don't have to use it and it's not enabled by default. So like, you search for "pizza toppings", and you get a bunch of pages talking about pizza and their toppings:

There's no unsolicited "AI" box at the top telling you to put rocks on there or anything insane like that. The availability of AI is there though, if you're into that sort of thing. Click the "Quick answer" button and you get something like this:

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There's likely a way to directly invoke AI via their bang syntax (similar to DDG's), but I don't know what that is, 'cause I don't use it.

Either way, you can sign up and they give you 100 searches for free. You can trial it yourself if you like.

Well cool beans, thanks for the detailed reply!

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s a question mark. All you have to do to get AI results is put a question mark at the end of your search.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's what I thought, but I tried "what toppings are good on pizza?" and it didn't trigger.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Oh you should report that as a bug. It definitely is documented as that being the trigger. https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/quick-answer.html

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

AI only shows up if you use a question mark in your search.

the AI is behind a menu and you don't have to use it. sometimes it may generate a response card if you ask a question in the search box, but not always.

the way the airplane works is that it will conduct multiple searches based on your prompt and then give an answer and citations, so you can click on them to go to where, even within an article, it got an answer. it isn't always right, but it's way better than relying on the training of an llm.

but again, you don't have to use it and it's out of the way. you don't even have to see it.

I really like the service. it feels like the way search used to be, with exception that no one follows the old operators well anymore, eg +(this term) -(that term) NOT, etc

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I second this, I love Kagi. I even got free Kagi socks but with $7.50 shipping >:(