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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I never ever use these names. My guess is they're a carryover from some Web 1.0 rule and not originally specific to CSS.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

X11.

One notable difference between X11 and W3C is the case of "Gray" and its variants. In HTML, "Gray" is specifically reserved for the 128 triplet (50% gray). However, in X11, "gray" was assigned to the 190 triplet (74.5%), which is close to W3C "Silver" at 192 (75.3%), and had "Light Gray" at 211 (83%) and "Dark Gray" at 169 (66%) counterparts. As a result, the combined CSS 3.0 color list that prevails on the web today produces "Dark Gray" as a significantly lighter tone than plain "Gray", because "Dark Gray" was descended from X11 – for it did not exist in HTML nor CSS level 1 – while "Gray" was descended from HTML. Even in the current draft for CSS 4.0, dark gray continues to be a lighter shade than gray. Some browsers such as Netscape Navigator insisted on an "a" in any "Gray" except for "Light Grey".

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"Gray" with an A looks so wrong to my eyes. I don't think I ever see it used normally.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

"Grey if it's in England, gray if it's in America."

Same as tire vs tyre, center vs centre and so on.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I am an American living in America, still looks weird.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 17 hours ago

I knew it'd be something like that. Don't try to fix it, would be my advice. BTW my rgb.txt seems to have 2 entries for every tone of grey resp. gray.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Once at a job when I was supposed to make a website work (and I'll stress, I am not a graphic designer and wasn't hired as one!) I made the layout as nice as I could, but I insisted on only using named CSS colors because I just do. not. care. about color theory. By which I mean, I don't want to waste time and do a crappy job at it when someone else could do it much better and properly and faster. So the named colors are meant as an obvious placeholder for a more creative person to replace with something real later.

When my boss gave me feedback he just said that it's ugly. I started saying "yeah, the colors are placeholders, we can change that easily. I'll fiddle it with it I'll stick with named colors" (above explanation was to follow).

Before I even got to the named colors bit, he interrupted me and said "don't use named colors ever".

I guess maybe I was hired as a graphic designer? News to me!

(I'm making him sound awful but he was actually a really good boss. This interaction is not representative of our usual dynamics. I'm not employed by him anymore but we are on good terms.)

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 17 hours ago

Before I even got to the named colors bit, he interrupted me and said “don’t use named colors ever”.

He recognized the tones. Used to be known as "web friendly" a long time ago.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 23 hours ago

I literally only use them when testing.