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[–] vrek@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's a big problem in the current reality, what is "Ai" besides a sale term? Hell from the game dev world there has been a "generative Ai" for years which took "trees"(pre-made images and meshes) and allowed you to kinda "brush" a forest down which kinda looked normal as none of the trees were in straight lines or specific distances.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks. I didn't know, I'm not much of a designer. Yeah, maybe I should stop asking for nuance and well-defined terms in these arguments. Seems EA games means firing designers, in-house playtesters... And overall reducing quality. Other people mean various different things with AI and they all use the same word for it and it needs to be a yes/no answer... I think I'll stick with my initial opinion and it's just more nuanced with games than with other things. And we can't just ask random people on the streets and expect them to know the fine lines between different implementations of AI. Some have been used for decades. Some are newer and just slightly different, yet qualify as generative. Some are very different. A good chunk probably outright bad and cost-cutting measures with the usual downsides of AI, it just depends on what exactly the studios do. And things like AlphaGo are more or less a scientific achievement. And we also want single player games to feel like the characters in them were alive.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

The problem is everyone is claiming "generative Ai" because they think it will result in lower costs or higher sales. No one has a official definition, I would think generative Ai is llm, another comment stated it was only about creating images and firing artists.

It's a buzz word. It's like social network a few years ago. Does Facebook count as a social network? How about steam? OK, now what about world of warcraft? Discord? What's the difference between a social network and a old school forum? All let you make friends, talk with friends and enjoy each other's company. Could be argued AIM was a social network...