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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's where things are at for now; anything the GOP does to try to make it go away will make it worse.

Yes, people are leaving MAGA over this, and many others are less vocal than they were. Not everyone, but MAGA doesn't have to shrink much before it's no longer a political force.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It doesn't matter whether or not people "leave MAGA" , it matters how they vote. Are they fed up enough with it all that they would vote for a "Liberal"? Even one who's not at all Liberal , but just has a "D" after their name? If not, then their "leaving MAGA" is just a temper tantrum with no practical effect.

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

They don't have to vote at all. And absence of a vote is still helpful.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

That's a very narrow way of looking at democracy. Voting is only one thing you can do to affect change. It's arguably not even the best way.

Since Trump took office, members of Congress have been talking about getting death threats if they don't do everything Trump says. This has had a real effect on what Congress has done in response. To a certain extent, members of Congress always get death threats, but the amplitude seems much, much higher than it has ever been. This has had a real effect on what they've done against Trump--both GOP and Dems alike.

If MAGA stops their support, then that goes away, and it will have direct impacts.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

It matters if we get some real reformers running and not controlled opposition.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you guys still think you are going to get to vote? That's cute. Have you not been paying attention?!

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, there will be an election. The only question is how ratfucked it will be.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No there won't be, there will be a dog and pony show instead.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They aren’t leaving MAGA, they’re leaving the GOP. They still want to do project 2025, etc.

And I still don’t think they actually believe Trump is involved.

But yes about the voting thing. However, the dems have lost a crap tonne, so it might even out. :(

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have no power without the GOP. It's the same reason that the American Green Party has no power, just from the opposite side.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 days ago

Haha Green Party. I forgot all about those Ruskies.